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L J, modified 2 Months ago at 9/22/23 2:29 PM
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Posts: 34 Join Date: 4/25/20 Recent PostsGeorge S, modified 2 Years ago at 12/6/20 9:45 PM
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RE: Three speed transmission vs pure noting?
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RE: Three speed transmission vs pure noting?
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So noting stream might be something like:
"Aversion to pure noting. Interest in 3 speed practice. Trying self-enquiry. Asking 'who am I?' No answer. Loss of interest in self-enquiry. Trying do nothing. Doing nothing. Good. Oh shit just came back from thoughts about ex. Doing nothing is harder than it looks. Returning to pure noting. Etc."
"Aversion to pure noting. Interest in 3 speed practice. Trying self-enquiry. Asking 'who am I?' No answer. Loss of interest in self-enquiry. Trying do nothing. Doing nothing. Good. Oh shit just came back from thoughts about ex. Doing nothing is harder than it looks. Returning to pure noting. Etc."
Papa Che Dusko, modified 2 Years ago at 12/7/20 11:39 AM
Created 2 Years ago at 12/6/20 11:47 PM
RE: Three speed transmission vs pure noting?
Posts: 2576 Join Date: 3/1/20 Recent PostsLouis Joel:
Hey everyone!
I've recently been re-reading Kenneth Folk's contemplative fitness e-book and he talks a lot about the three speed transmission (1st gear: vipassana, 2nd gear: self-enquiry, 3rd gear: do nothing). I was wondering if any of you have experience with doing this consistently and can compare it to just doing 100% pure mahasi noting for an entire sit? Does the addition of self-enquiry and do nothing into a sit add any benefits that don't come from just pure noting? Just wondering what all of your opinions are on this. Thanks
I've recently been re-reading Kenneth Folk's contemplative fitness e-book and he talks a lot about the three speed transmission (1st gear: vipassana, 2nd gear: self-enquiry, 3rd gear: do nothing). I was wondering if any of you have experience with doing this consistently and can compare it to just doing 100% pure mahasi noting for an entire sit? Does the addition of self-enquiry and do nothing into a sit add any benefits that don't come from just pure noting? Just wondering what all of your opinions are on this. Thanks

of "who is seeing? Who is hearing? Who is thinking? Who is sensing?"
I think it's ok to just ask this question even before the EQ Nana but for me it arose naturally in the EQ.
The Do Nothing part is "backwards riding the Ox back home" were there is utter trust in the Ox knowing where to go what to do. One gets out of the way of This unfolding.
This is a tricky one pre-Path in my view but I could be wrong.
I would not lose the Noting Monentum you clearly have. It's ok to ask "who is seeing, hearing, sensing, thinking" every once in a while but if you ask me I would just go Noting until deep into EQ before dwelling deeper into 2nd and even 3rd Gear.
What you might need is some more concentration maybe and open eye Kasina while Freestyle Noting can offer this. You can even do Noting Aloud while doing Fire Kasina. I tried it and it also works.
This is just my view mate


May you practice well.
Papa Che Dusko, modified 2 Months ago at 9/22/23 2:29 PM
Created 2 Years ago at 12/7/20 1:38 PM
RE: Three speed transmission vs pure noting?
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Claim your practice
it's yours!
Test and see what it does. I would give it at least a few months. All practice needs to build a momentum. So does concentration practice. Stuff takes time to reach a certain inertia. Patience. It's like fishing. You have no idea if a fish will snatch the bait
You throw it into the water and wait. So here light up that Kasina and wait and see what pops up.
Best wishes!



Best wishes!
Ni Nurta, modified 2 Years ago at 12/7/20 2:20 PM
Created 2 Years ago at 12/7/20 2:20 PM
RE: Three speed transmission vs pure noting?
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Doesn't transmission part in three speed transmission need teacher? Presumably inventor of the "technique"?
Just thinking out loud...
Just thinking out loud...
Papa Che Dusko, modified 2 Years ago at 12/7/20 11:27 PM
Created 2 Years ago at 12/7/20 11:27 PM
RE: Three speed transmission vs pure noting?
Posts: 2576 Join Date: 3/1/20 Recent PostsNi Nurta:
Doesn't transmission part in three speed transmission need teacher? Presumably inventor of the "technique"?
Just thinking out loud...
Just thinking out loud...
Inventor???



Ni Nurta, modified 2 Years ago at 12/10/20 2:13 AM
Created 2 Years ago at 12/10/20 2:13 AM
RE: Three speed transmission vs pure noting?
Posts: 1048 Join Date: 2/22/20 Recent PostsPapa Che Dusko:
Inventor???



No magic here mate. Actually anyone with magic stuff ought to run away from Kenneth
just kidding , he is a lovely guy.

Wasn't he supposed to be doomed to special Buddhist hell or something?
