Would an Arahant lose interest in writing?

Would an Arahant lose interest in writing? Matheus Ribeiro de Assis 1/23/22 3:13 PM
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Hi!, Nice to meet you all, this is my first post.
When someone awakens, would he lose interest in creative activities? Particularly writing literature and poems.
I want to know about this, because of professional motives.
But my question can ve extended to music, paintings, art and entertainment in general.
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aloha mat,

   An awakened person has no professional motives.

   This begs the question, can a self-interested person exploit awakening in order to profit by turning it into entertainment?

   Sure, people do it sll the time.

   Should we help them?

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I don't see any particular reason why you would lose interest in creative activities. Your priorities and motivations might change. You may even find more joy and spontaneity in creative activities.
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Greetings Matheus,

Hobbies and interests can get changed up after awakening. A safe bet is you'll lose any interests that are driven by self-centeredness; anything that you're doing that involves upholding an image of yourself.

In general though, I think people usually find creative endeavors are enhanced after awakening.
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A lot of our motivations come from the fear of negative consequences.
1. Fear of failure
2. Fear of being poor
3. Fear of societal judgment
4. Fear of losing power
5. Fear of being a nobody

Awakening leads to losing this fear and thus the drive to perform out of fear is lost.

The ability to engage in activities that provide joy is not lost.

Things are seen clearly as joyful and painful. The 'vedana' or valence of an object need not change. Object can be a simple object like a caress on the cheek or a slap in the face. Or it can be a complex compound object like engaging in a professional activity.

If doing art has sukha vedana or positive valence for someone, this positive valence will not / need not change.
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Matheus Ribeiro de Assis
Hi!, Nice to meet you all, this is my first post.
When someone awakens, would he lose interest in creative activities? Particularly writing literature and poems.
I want to know about this, because of professional motives.
But my question can ve extended to music, paintings, art and entertainment in general.


It depends on what was motivating him before awakening. If he was motivated by a need for egotistical gratification such as from recognition or amassing money, that motivation might evaporate, (depending on how you define arahant).

It can be pretty hard to tell for a person who is not awakened whether they are motivated by egoism, people are pretty good at hiding things from themselves - that's why awakening can be hard / take time - so the loss of motivation might come as a surprise. Seeing how much of your behavior had been based on egoism can be kind of shock sometimes.

Otherwise, awakening doesn't erase the personality and interests. What some people will say is that they become more of an observer / passenger - they still do stuff but they don't feel a sense of agency. (Like when they blame their emotions on the aggregates, 'It's the aggregates that are crying'.)  (Actually they might say "there is no one doing it", but I'm not sure how much help that is as an explanation.)

It might sound like a contradiction, "they lose egoism as a motivation", but they still have interests and emotions - an analogy to help understand how both can be true is to consider how psychotherapy might change someone, someone might behave more like a well adjusted person after psychotherapy, but it wouldn't erase their personality it wouldn't turn them into a zombie. I'm not saying awakening is the same as psychotherapy, it is just an analogy to help illustrate the point I am trying to make.
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Clearly, the term "arahat" and its spelling variants are defined various ways by various sources, groups, traditions, individuals, etc.

Thus, the underlying presumption of the question is that there is a sort of a Platonic Ideal of what an "arahat" is, when, instead, you have to consider the specific or implicit set of criteria being promoted by the specific entity or entities in question.

Looking at historical data, we find that the Buddha himself, as well as numerous people designated as arahats in the Theravada tradition, engaged in the creation of poetry and poetic fragments, as well as other types of creative content, including thousands of pages of Suttas, for example, and this appears to hold up over the centuries, as various other texts were signed as being by arahats, such as some of the Commentaries.

Looking at contemporary examples, we also find individuals designated by various other groups or by themselves as arahats who also produced creative written and other forms of material across.

Helpful?

Best wishes,

Daniel
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I wasn't expecting so many answers and in short time. Thanks guys. But the question is a little bit deeper. For example, a normal person could feel fear (and pleasure for being scared) when reading an horror storie or watching a horror movie. But fear only exists because there is an "I" that perceives a threat. When the ego is gone, there is no one to be afraid of any existencial threats.

In the other hand, we have "mirror neurons" that mimics the sensations of what we are seing, and I don't know if this mechanism depends on the notion of a (other)self.

Daniel, are you still capable of experiencing fear?
Thank you for replying!
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Daniel, are you still capable of experiencing fear?

Daniel can answer for himself, but fear (or anger, love, hate, etc.) doesn't disappear. It is deeply understood, and thus loses its power over us. Waking up is about grokking, deeply, how the mind works
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The view - 'I' exist ... therefore 'I' am afraid. Is seen to be false.

1. There is fear / there is an absence of any expectation of outcome
2. There is misery/ there is mere acknowledgement of perception
3. There is disgust/ there is simple acceptance of that which is perceived
4. There is desperation to get out / there is intimacy with experience

Because these attitudes exist, thus there is an 'I'. In the first set of choices this 'I' is compulsive, in the second set of choices this 'I' is a mere convrnience.

Dont worry about creative ability and mirror neurons. This mere convenience of an 'I' is formidable.

One loses the fetters one does not lose the marbles.
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I would add that the ego doesn't disappear, it's just seen for what it is (similar point to Adi above). In fact fixating on the disappearance of the ego is a sly form of egotism!
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True, that. The self doesn't disappear, either. It's not as if we become something other than what we already are. We're human now, we're human then.
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This is about not resisting the Truckload of Dung but letting it dump it all in front of your main door with the wish that all truckloads of dung, instead of going to other beings front doors, all come to your door and dump it right there so others might be free from it. 

May all the dung come to me, so you all may be free from it, awake, happy at heart. 

BTW, I think a Goat is an Arahant that hasn't lost the ability to make brown marbles from green grass emoticon emoticon 
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aloha m r de a,

you said:

I wasn't expecting so many answers and in short time. Thanks guys. But the question is a little bit deeper. For example, a normal person could feel fear (and pleasure for being scared) when reading an horror storie or watching a horror movie. But fear only exists because there is an "I" that perceives a threat. When the ego is gone, there is no one to be afraid of any existencial threats.

In the other hand, we have "mirror neurons" that mimics the sensations of what we are seing, and I don't know if this mechanism depends on the notion of a (other)self.

Daniel, are you still capable of experiencing fear?
Thank you for replying!

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   A "normal person" could feel fear when confronted by a large bear or shark or mugger. Horror movies induce ersatz fear, not the same brain mechanisms necessarily in schadenfreude and vicarious experience as in real fear. Stanford biologist robert sapolsky makes the point rather extensively that real fear is closely associated with aggression, not pleasure. The thrill of risk and reward is pleasurable at a bit of a distance, like playing video games or watching movies. War is often ideallized but not by those who have seen it and participated in it. It's a cliche that if you haven't seen the elephant, you don't know.

   When the chinese overran tibet the monks fled before them, but there was one old monk who stayed in the monastery when the cruel chinese major came calling. As the monk sat in meditation, the major called to him, hey old monk, don't you know that I could push this sword through your belly right now without blinking an eye? The monk replied, hey, major, don't you know that I could let you push your sword through my belly right now without blinking an eye?

   Did the monk have no fear? What of the vietnamese monks who immolated themselves, no fear?

   One of the thiings professor supolsky points out in his book (referenced on another thread) is that not only are humans capable of delaying gratification, they can delay it at great cost and unto future generations. People will sacrifice themselves for an idea, an afterlife, or progeny; for god, family or country. They will put up with torture, mutilation, death, dismemberment, burning, drowning and you name it (lapidation!). And spit in the face of their oppressors.

   Are they afraid? I think so,brother, I think so.

   Something gives them courage, great courage, very great courage. Plus people are stubborn, you know how we are.

   As for mirror neurons, the brain of mammals has a whole representation of the body mirrored in it, from toes to crown. Your horror stories are mirrors. Your fears are perceptions of horror stories, not real fears at all. 

   The wizard doesn't give the lion anything but a line of shit. The lion earned his courage by making the quest to meet the wizard, not by achieving the ostensible result, an audience with the great man. As rinzai said, the way I see it, you zen students are no different from the buddha. When the thirty birds finally reach mount qaf, they become "thirty birds."

   Being awake is a condition; awakening is a process. At every moment we are automating through habituation whatever repetitive behaviors we engage in. Waking up from the "normal" condition of the robot performing all of our activities for us is painful and arduous but it beats the alternative, the living death of being an automaton.

   The truth is, all art is awakening. There is no art without awakening. Awakening turns on the tap of creativity.


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ess ay polsky


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In addition to the wonderful replies already given, we can look from another perspective.  If the writing--or art of any form--would likely benefit 'others' (and more than another activity in the assessment of the arahant) an arahant might write quite a lot.  Yet an arahant would merely 'exist' as interdependent arising without boundaries of 'persons', 'world', 'self', and 'other'.  Therefore, what would help 'self' or 'other' (and 'world') could be rephrased as decreasing overall suffering or even increasing overall fun if enjoyment could assist in diminishment of suffering.  It's all about fiddling the dials of ick emotion and yum emotion, yet would also vary from arahant to arahant 'I' would suggest, perhaps, maybe.
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aloha hillary,

   welcome to group 


I do a lot of writing but I don't care about it.

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Thank you for all the respondeses!
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"The truth is, all art is awakening. There is no art without awakening. Awakening turns on the tap of creativity.

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that's "old" fart to you, bra...

(have some respect!)

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42?
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4:20?
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R2-D2 ? 
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if it was with papa che dusko I think an arahant might lose interest in writing...

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Hope that Uke playing is getting better!? emoticon One note at a time! "plink, plink, plonk" emoticon 
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the uke playing is not keeping pace with the puppy who is substantially enlarged...(what a beautiful, smart dog; we're in love; maybe it's puppy love)

gotta make a habit of it...(the uke playing, though puppy love is ever appealing)

fingers stay busy already 

my latest works of art...have 8 silver bracelets on the bench I'm finishing up...tomorrow in the morning light I'll set the 8 stones all of which I cut and polished myself from rocks...sold 3 last week so gotta stock up...

also 26 angel number rings I'll rouge in a few and put into inventory...(perhaps 808 isn't an angel number, so, 23)

maybe after that I could squeeze in the new beatles documentary if I had a tv...


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808 is a Tube Screamer so ... it's closer to 666 the number of the beast which is responsible for the Rock'n'Roll we love!

Probably good to stick with 23 or ... 42? 

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808 is telephone area code for hawaii

4:20 is time to light up


my apprentice at the time, a young hapa haole surfette, made a bunch of angel number rings for me as compensation for her tuition, 111, 222, 333 etc...I have no idea why they are popuar with millenials, but surfette has a tatoo "11:11" on her wrist...they see these numbers "everywhere" and they have no idea why they seem significant, but it gives them a thrill to feel these little miracles of coincidence...

personally if I look for the time and it is 11:10 I feel like I'm too quick, and if it is 11:12 I'm a bit slow...and it is amazing how often it is 5:55, or 2:22, or 8:08...


42?  jackie robinson's jersey number...
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Ah numbers were never my thing! I was worse at Math! 

But I do look at the Moon often! Also stare at the star lit sky! I seem to be attracted to horoscope signs! Maybe I'm an Indigo? (Never understood those labels) 

You will find the answer to 42 if you hold tight onto your towel! Always know where your towel is and DON'T PANIC! 

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OBAKU said to the master Hyakujo: "They say that centuries ago a
master was reborn as a fox five hundred times, because he gave
answers untrue to Zen. But now suppose a master were asked
question after question, and always gave a right and wise Zen
answer. What happens to him?"

"Come here near me," said master Hyakujo, "and I will answer you."

The student stepped up to Hyakujo, and slapped the master's face.
He knew this was the answer the master had intended for him.

The master Hyakujo laughed. "I always knew Persians had red
beards," he said, "and now I know a Persian who has a red beard."
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A MASTER was asked the question, "What is the Way?" by a curious
monk.

"It is right before your eyes," said the master.

"Why do I not see it for myself?"

"Because you are thinking of yourself."

"What about you: do you see it?"

"So long as you see double, saying I don't and you do, and so on,
your eyes are clouded," said the master.

"When there is neither 'I' nor 'You,' can one see it?"

"When there is neither 'I' nor 'You,' who is the one that wants to
see it?"
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Goso said: "Suppose you meet a Zen master on the road. You can't
talk to him. You can't stand there silent. What can you do?"

[To this koan, one of Mumon's comments was: "Whack him one!"]
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Give him your copy of How To Win Friends and Influence People
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Imho indigo is color of pure wordless mentality. If mind doesn't revolve around words and any words in your mind are due to on-the-fly transcription and otherwise they themselves do not drive process of thinking then you are indigo. Alternative here is when mind obsesses about words and prohibit itself from anything that it cannot understand in words and/or disrupts mental processes by having them be expressible in words.

BTW. Wouldn't computer put 42 if it wanted to say 66? Just thinking out loud...
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