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MCTB Swedish
Jonas E, modified 2 Years ago at 10/26/22 9:36 AM
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MCTB Swedish
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I found a fault in the translation to Swedish on page 168, A&P.
The original sentence: “Better not to begin. Once begun, better to finish!”
The translated sentence: ”Bäst att inte börja. Och om man börjat, bäst att sluta!” In english it would be: "Better not to begin. Once begun, better to stop!"
Reading a translated work is like reading a new author. I also found other things in the Swedish version that could be changed. Language easily plays funny games in the mind... Finding reality is not allways as easy. I think it would be great to change it, the fault. If I can get in contact with the author, I can give some suggestions.
The original sentence: “Better not to begin. Once begun, better to finish!”
The translated sentence: ”Bäst att inte börja. Och om man börjat, bäst att sluta!” In english it would be: "Better not to begin. Once begun, better to stop!"
Reading a translated work is like reading a new author. I also found other things in the Swedish version that could be changed. Language easily plays funny games in the mind... Finding reality is not allways as easy. I think it would be great to change it, the fault. If I can get in contact with the author, I can give some suggestions.
Daniel M Ingram, modified 2 Years ago at 10/26/22 10:09 AM
Created 2 Years ago at 10/26/22 10:09 AM
RE: MCTB Swedish
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Hey, thanks for noting the correction. They might have written, "Better not to begin. Once begun, better to Finnish."
Reach out to me by email, and I will put you in touch with the translator.
Thanks!
Daniel
Reach out to me by email, and I will put you in touch with the translator.
Thanks!
Daniel
Linda ”Polly Ester” Ö, modified 2 Years ago at 10/26/22 2:32 PM
Created 2 Years ago at 10/26/22 2:32 PM
RE: MCTB Swedish
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RE: MCTB Swedish
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RE: MCTB Swedish
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They might have written, "Better not to begin. Once begun, better to Finnish."
They might have written, "Better not to begin. Once begun, better to Finnish."
Jonas E, modified 2 Years ago at 10/29/22 7:48 AM
Created 2 Years ago at 10/29/22 7:48 AM
RE: MCTB Swedish
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What does "hail" mean here?
Page 11, foreword and warning
"I should also mention that I consider myself and many of those who hail from the lineages from which I primarily draw to be dharma cowboys,..."
come from the lineages? Or storm (like ) from the lineages? haha
Page 11, foreword and warning
"I should also mention that I consider myself and many of those who hail from the lineages from which I primarily draw to be dharma cowboys,..."
come from the lineages? Or storm (like ) from the lineages? haha
Jonas E, modified 2 Years ago at 10/29/22 8:05 AM
Created 2 Years ago at 10/29/22 8:03 AM
RE: MCTB Swedish
Posts: 93 Join Date: 2/28/15 Recent PostsYujo Fijo Page 11, foreword and warning "I should also mention that I consider myself and many of those who hail from the lineages from which I primarily draw to be dharma cowboys,"
I feel like I reach an end here in my brain. What does it actually mean? The whole sentence. Feels like it ends before it's finished. I understand what you say, but I don't understand the... grammar I guess.
Chris M, modified 2 Years ago at 10/29/22 8:28 AM
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The word "hail" in that sentence means "come from." Replace "hail" with "come from," and the meaning should be much more clear to you.
Adi Vader, modified 2 Years ago at 10/29/22 12:09 PM
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Paraphrasing:
I belong to certain specific lineages.
Other people also belong to those lineages.
I, as well as those other people, jokingly consider ourselves Dharma Cowboys.
I belong to certain specific lineages.
Other people also belong to those lineages.
I, as well as those other people, jokingly consider ourselves Dharma Cowboys.
Jonas E, modified 1 Year ago at 11/21/22 4:11 AM
Created 1 Year ago at 11/20/22 3:07 PM
RE: MCTB Swedish
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I'm done with the changes in the MCTB Swedish document. It's in format docx now. Do you know how to covert it to PDF without changing the pages relative to the table of contents?
Jonas E, modified 1 Year ago at 11/21/22 8:11 AM
Created 1 Year ago at 11/21/22 8:11 AM
RE: MCTB Swedish
Posts: 93 Join Date: 2/28/15 Recent PostsJonas E, modified 1 Year ago at 11/24/22 5:51 AM
Created 1 Year ago at 11/24/22 5:51 AM
RE: MCTB Swedish
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Is it anyone who want to help me to view my revised edition and perhaps replace the current one at the Dho wiki? I sent it to Daniel, but he might av a big pile of hundreds of mails which he can't keep up with.
Chris M, modified 1 Year ago at 11/24/22 8:54 AM
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The Swedish translation that is linked to from the DhO resides on Daniel's own server, so it's likely that only Daniel would have permission to upload your new version. If you direct message me, I can help you get it to Daniel.
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Jonas E, modified 1 Year ago at 11/24/22 9:59 AM
Created 1 Year ago at 11/24/22 9:36 AM
RE: MCTB Swedish
Posts: 93 Join Date: 2/28/15 Recent PostsChris M, modified 1 Year ago at 11/24/22 10:06 AM
Created 1 Year ago at 11/24/22 10:00 AM
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Got it!
I also edited your last post to obscure the password to the file download. I sent this file to Daniel today.
I also edited your last post to obscure the password to the file download. I sent this file to Daniel today.
Jonas E, modified 1 Year ago at 11/28/22 10:24 AM
Created 1 Year ago at 11/28/22 10:24 AM
RE: MCTB Swedish
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I got an interesting problem to choose the right swedish word for "interdependent" on the first page of MCTB. I think it can serve us a good contemplation to find the right solution for this together. You might feel the same with the english version?
"The interdependent universe" Is it superfluous? I think we could just say Universe, right? Meanwhile writing this I listen to this amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3e-vhWtJRM
Is it telling me to just give up my little problem or to carry on, in compassion for all beings? I don't know... But I learn somehow through just listening. Wow!
For you swedish people: I den nuvarande svenska versionen i wiki. Är ordet "allomfattande" valt. Alltså: "En ovanligt handfast bok om Dharma av Det Allomfattande Universum men konventionellt tillskriven Arahant Daniel M. Ingram" I min reviserade version har jag valt "Inbördes beroende". Altså: "En ovanligt handfast bok om Dharma av Det Inbördes Beroende Universum men konventionellt tillskriven Arahant Daniel M. Ingram, MD MSPH"The magic of the you tube music vanished a bit. I have to leave space in my writing it seems. It's all okay!
First page of MCTB: "An Unusually Hardcore Dharma Book by The Interdependent Universe but conventionally attributed to The Arahat Daniel M. Ingram, MD MSPH"
"The interdependent universe" Is it superfluous? I think we could just say Universe, right? Meanwhile writing this I listen to this amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3e-vhWtJRM
Is it telling me to just give up my little problem or to carry on, in compassion for all beings? I don't know... But I learn somehow through just listening. Wow!
For you swedish people: I den nuvarande svenska versionen i wiki. Är ordet "allomfattande" valt. Alltså: "En ovanligt handfast bok om Dharma av Det Allomfattande Universum men konventionellt tillskriven Arahant Daniel M. Ingram" I min reviserade version har jag valt "Inbördes beroende". Altså: "En ovanligt handfast bok om Dharma av Det Inbördes Beroende Universum men konventionellt tillskriven Arahant Daniel M. Ingram, MD MSPH"The magic of the you tube music vanished a bit. I have to leave space in my writing it seems. It's all okay!
First page of MCTB: "An Unusually Hardcore Dharma Book by The Interdependent Universe but conventionally attributed to The Arahat Daniel M. Ingram, MD MSPH"
Jonas E, modified 1 Year ago at 6/17/23 11:06 AM
Created 1 Year ago at 6/17/23 11:06 AM
RE: MCTB Swedish
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I don't find time to finish revising the book. I thought I was done, so I have an edition that I changed partly, but then I found some more things to change
Anyways I think the work is great, it could be read as it is, I just read a bit and I'm verry greatful for the work! You are welcome to contact me if you want my revised edition for further revising and/or just reading. My mail is: jonase@email.com
Anyways I think the work is great, it could be read as it is, I just read a bit and I'm verry greatful for the work! You are welcome to contact me if you want my revised edition for further revising and/or just reading. My mail is: jonase@email.com