Help for spiritual addicts

This Good Self, modified 10 Years ago at 9/5/13 5:20 AM
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Help for spiritual addicts

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Do you find yourself logging in to Dho and other similar forums daily? Multiple times a day? Multiple forums perhaps?

Maybe you're addicted to the seeker personality - ie. "I am a person who is deeply involved in the spiritual community and the seeking of enlightenment".

Scott Kiloby might be worth checking out.

[from McKenna's old blog]
Scott Kiloby is working with people on addictions of all kinds, including addictions to substances and activities as well as the addiction to self and spiritual seeking. He has trained over 40 facilitators in his Living Inquiries. These facilitators work online, on the phone and in person in individual and group settings. The inquiries do not leave you with fancy spiritual knowledge or pointers that you can repeat ad nauseum. They challenge every belief about yourself, others, objects and the world. Scott is also opening a recovery center in Palm Springs based on it's work. It will be called the Kiloby Center for Recovery. It is anticipated that the doors will open in January, 2014.
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Richard Zen, modified 10 Years ago at 9/5/13 7:54 AM
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RE: Help for spiritual addicts

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C C C:
[from McKenna's old blog]
They challenge every belief about yourself, others, objects and the world.


Cognitive therapy?
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Jane Laurel Carrington, modified 10 Years ago at 9/5/13 10:49 AM
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RE: Help for spiritual addicts

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The proper term is "insight disease."
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Bruno Loff, modified 10 Years ago at 9/5/13 11:56 AM
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RE: Help for spiritual addicts

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Ah, insight disease... I hear that there's this practice you can do to completely obliterate it. Asamatha-fu?
This Good Self, modified 10 Years ago at 9/5/13 8:39 PM
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RE: Help for spiritual addicts

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Richard Zen:
C C C:
[from McKenna's old blog]
They challenge every belief about yourself, others, objects and the world.


Cognitive therapy?


Not sure how you'd classify it. But the idea is that being a seeker is an identity that is clung to for fear of the unknown. Not a new idea, but all the great teachers include this theme in their work. Being a seeker is no different to being a money-grubbing Wall St banker. Both represent ego in full bloom. That's why someone might use the term addiction, Laurel. The term 'disease' makes it sound like something is happening to you - there's no insight in 'insight disease'... just more of the same old, same old.
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Richard Zen, modified 10 Years ago at 9/5/13 9:47 PM
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RE: Help for spiritual addicts

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I'm okay with people pursuing self-interest because you need to do a certain amount. It's when it's cruel towards other people that's the problem. People enjoy competition in sports when it's fair but when people become petty, cruel and unfair then the competition just looks like narcissism. Respect is lost. (Eg. Lance Armstrong)
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Jane Laurel Carrington, modified 10 Years ago at 9/6/13 8:58 AM
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RE: Help for spiritual addicts

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C C C:
Laurel. The term 'disease' makes it sound like something is happening to you - there's no insight in 'insight disease'... just more of the same old, same old.


I was just having a little fun emoticon. Insight disease is a cute way of saying someone is obsessed with it, going batty over wanting the next path, whatever.

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