Six words of advice - Tilopa

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Richard Zen, modified 9 Years ago at 10/13/14 11:58 PM
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Six words of advice - Tilopa

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http://www.unfetteredmind.org/includes/sixwords.pdf

Another good Mahamudra list:
Don’t recall
(Let go of what has passed) 

Don’t imagine
(Let go of what may come)

Don’t think
(Let go of what is happening now)

Don’t examine
(Don’t try to figure anything out)
 
Don’t control
(Don’t try to make anything happen)

Rest
(Relax, right now, and rest)

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Not Tao, modified 9 Years ago at 10/14/14 1:44 AM
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This also sounds like the dzogchen "pointing out" - are they essentially the same thing?  I always liked these tibetian ideas.
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Richard Zen, modified 9 Years ago at 10/14/14 9:02 AM
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I think this looks more like instructions for Shikantaza since it looks for all the possible clingings that could be there and what to let go of. Of couse you wouldn't want to do this in daily life when you actually need to think, recall etc.
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Not Tao, modified 9 Years ago at 10/14/14 3:32 PM
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This might be something to examine, but I don't think these pairs match up:

Don’t recall
(Let go of what has passed)

Don’t imagine
(Let go of what may come)

Don’t think
(Let go of what is happening now)

If you're letting go, does that really mean stopping various mental processes, or does it mean allowing them without inhibitions. The last one especially, I think letting go of what's happening can cause a lot of thoughts to "break loose" so to speak. I think I favor the bottom lines over the top. The top sounds like a lot of "doing," which goes against the very last line saying to rest.
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Richard Zen, modified 9 Years ago at 10/14/14 5:29 PM
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Yeah the second lines are more detailed. Letting go is not repressing.
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(D Z) Dhru Val, modified 9 Years ago at 10/14/14 11:19 PM
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Song of Mahamudra - by Tilopa, its like these words but more comprehensive. always calms me down without fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZHrg_7EAA

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Richard Zen, modified 9 Years ago at 10/14/14 11:48 PM
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Very relaxing.
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Bryan, modified 9 Years ago at 10/31/14 12:39 AM
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Tilopa's advice is Mahamudra. Very similar to Dzogchen practice. Also from Tilopa's Mahamudra Upadesha that you may also like:

"Your body has no core, hollow like bamboo.
 Your mind goes beyond thought, open like space.
 Let go of control and rest right there. "

and

"At first, practice is a river rushing through a gorge.
In the middle, it’s the river Ganges, smooth and flowing.
In the end, it's where all rivers meet, mother and child."

with metta, Bryan
Jeremy May, modified 9 Years ago at 10/31/14 9:04 PM
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Recall 
(What has passed?) 

Imagine
(Oh what may come!)

Think 
(What is happening now?)

Examine 
(Try to figure Everything out)
 
control 
(Try to make Something happen)

Act
(Live.  Don't die before your time)
Jeremy May, modified 9 Years ago at 10/31/14 10:38 PM
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Not Tao has made me want to say it twice!

Recall 
(What has passed?) 

Imagine
(Oh what may come!)

Think 
(What is happening now?)

Examine 
(Try to figure Everything out)
 
control 
(Try to make Something happen)

Act
(Live.  Don't die before your time)
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Richard Zen, modified 9 Years ago at 11/22/14 9:40 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJbUHgbn2e0

Tilopa's Mahamudra. Fun soundtrack! emoticon
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Richard Zen, modified 9 Years ago at 11/22/14 1:47 PM
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Paweł K:
Richard Zen:
Of couse you wouldn't want to do this in daily life when you actually need to think, recall etc.

you won't make it very far in this enlightenment business with attitude such as that <lol>
You what I mean? Doing math and blocking thoughts is not a good idea. emoticon
Dave sdfsdf, modified 9 Years ago at 11/22/14 5:23 PM
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About math. Though I've found that thinking dont solve problems for me. When I program it just comes to me. Designing stuff requires planning and structure but usually one thinks way to much. Thats why most software, websites and what not is really bloated and sucky. The voice in the head dont really help all that much. I only here it when I have write in english when writing in native its not needed. Its a little weird.

But I like the mahamudranstuff above. Though Im really clueless about what that is really.

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