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Energy and insight practice
Stefan G, modified 9 Years ago at 10/25/14 7:19 AM
Created 9 Years ago at 10/25/14 7:19 AM
Energy and insight practice
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Hi!
New here at the forum and to dharma practice, so I’ll apologize if my question is too obvious and/or already answered somewhere within the forum =)
Anyway, here it goes. From an age about 14-15 years old, I discovered that I could “feel” energy (or whatever it is) between the hands and in my body. (E.g. on top of my head) In conjunction with this I also started to experience what I assume are “initiating stages” to out of body experiences. These experiences has come and gone during the years but I have always resisted exploring that experience any further.
A couple of years ago, after turning 30 of age, I started to reflect on the fact that these experiences actually have had an impact on my life. So I turned my attention towards Buddhism, where I started to attend classes at a Tibetan Buddhist center in Stockholm. The classes were great as an introduction to meditation and after a while I continued to practice on my own with the help of books in the subject.
I recently found Daniel Ingrams book (thanks for a great Swedish translation, btw!) which made me interested in adding more insight meditation to my practice.
Enough background. Is there any way that I can use the “energy sensations” as a meditation object for realizing the three characteristics? I ask because these sensations sometimes tend to arise automatically when I meditate. Is it something to ignore or could I utilize these sensations for insight practice?
Many thanks and best regards
Stefan
New here at the forum and to dharma practice, so I’ll apologize if my question is too obvious and/or already answered somewhere within the forum =)
Anyway, here it goes. From an age about 14-15 years old, I discovered that I could “feel” energy (or whatever it is) between the hands and in my body. (E.g. on top of my head) In conjunction with this I also started to experience what I assume are “initiating stages” to out of body experiences. These experiences has come and gone during the years but I have always resisted exploring that experience any further.
A couple of years ago, after turning 30 of age, I started to reflect on the fact that these experiences actually have had an impact on my life. So I turned my attention towards Buddhism, where I started to attend classes at a Tibetan Buddhist center in Stockholm. The classes were great as an introduction to meditation and after a while I continued to practice on my own with the help of books in the subject.
I recently found Daniel Ingrams book (thanks for a great Swedish translation, btw!) which made me interested in adding more insight meditation to my practice.
Enough background. Is there any way that I can use the “energy sensations” as a meditation object for realizing the three characteristics? I ask because these sensations sometimes tend to arise automatically when I meditate. Is it something to ignore or could I utilize these sensations for insight practice?
Many thanks and best regards
Stefan
katy steger,thru11615 with thanks, modified 9 Years ago at 10/26/14 6:39 AM
Created 9 Years ago at 10/26/14 6:32 AM
RE: Energy and insight practice
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Hi and welcome, Stefan,
So I relate to what you've written and had a similar thing happen at that age, also beginning in the hands; then I was able to intentionally expand it around the body. When I moved it to the head area an out-of-body experience happened out of the blue (and, consequently, I have the convinction that where there is sentience there is always God (aka: pure consciousness, aka: indivisible consciousness) inherent.)
Anyway, towards the three charateristics: you may note that these sensations while very pleasant, do not last, they fade (impermanence). Sometimes they come and go on their own (not-self). Sometimes we crave them and we do not get them or we do get them and they no longer satisfy (dukkha).
Your thoughts?
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This is my raccounting. Your reading this is of course not a direct mental insight; that comes from own life and somethings so simple mental can become a powerful behavior changes when really learned personally.
In a Coursera MOOC, the class facilitator points out at the outset that there are no teachers, just learners-- that a person wants to learn and learns, and something or someone faciliates the learning moment. I look forward to hearing more of your directly learned own knowledge and thank you for your thread :]
Anyway, here it goes. From an age about 14-15 years old, I discovered that I could “feel” energy (or whatever it is) between the hands and in my body. (E.g. on top of my head) In conjunction with this I also started to experience what I assume are “initiating stages” to out of body experiences. These experiences has come and gone during the years but I have always resisted exploring that experience any further.
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Enough background. Is there any way that I can use the “energy sensations” as a meditation object for realizing the three characteristics? I ask because these sensations sometimes tend to arise automatically when I meditate. Is it something to ignore or could I utilize these sensations for insight practice?
(...)
Enough background. Is there any way that I can use the “energy sensations” as a meditation object for realizing the three characteristics? I ask because these sensations sometimes tend to arise automatically when I meditate. Is it something to ignore or could I utilize these sensations for insight practice?
So I relate to what you've written and had a similar thing happen at that age, also beginning in the hands; then I was able to intentionally expand it around the body. When I moved it to the head area an out-of-body experience happened out of the blue (and, consequently, I have the convinction that where there is sentience there is always God (aka: pure consciousness, aka: indivisible consciousness) inherent.)
Anyway, towards the three charateristics: you may note that these sensations while very pleasant, do not last, they fade (impermanence). Sometimes they come and go on their own (not-self). Sometimes we crave them and we do not get them or we do get them and they no longer satisfy (dukkha).
Your thoughts?
_____
This is my raccounting. Your reading this is of course not a direct mental insight; that comes from own life and somethings so simple mental can become a powerful behavior changes when really learned personally.
In a Coursera MOOC, the class facilitator points out at the outset that there are no teachers, just learners-- that a person wants to learn and learns, and something or someone faciliates the learning moment. I look forward to hearing more of your directly learned own knowledge and thank you for your thread :]
Howard Maxwell Clegg, modified 9 Years ago at 10/26/14 2:11 PM
Created 9 Years ago at 10/26/14 2:11 PM
RE: Energy and insight practice
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Hi Stefan, what Katy says. They come and go, not always pleasant, and you have no control. There you have it, impermanence, suffering and not-self in one convenient package.
Peace
Peace
Stefan G, modified 9 Years ago at 10/28/14 12:04 AM
Created 9 Years ago at 10/28/14 12:04 AM
RE: Energy and insight practice
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Created 9 Years ago at 10/28/14 9:53 AM
RE: Energy and insight practice
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Hej, även jag är svensk nybörjare
Får man fråga vilket center? Är det givande att gå till center? Funderar på att söka upp något jag med.
Får man fråga vilket center? Är det givande att gå till center? Funderar på att söka upp något jag med.