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Pokémon GO, Imperialism, Tantra, Slavery, Animism, Magick, Ethics, etc. Daniel M. Ingram 8/9/16 2:06 AM
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RE: Pokémon GO, Imperialism, Tantra, Slavery, Animism, Magick, Ethics, etc. Stirling Campbell 8/9/16 3:48 PM
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RE: Pokémon GO, Imperialism, Tantra, Slavery, Animism, Magick, Ethics, etc. Daniel M. Ingram 8/11/16 6:17 AM
RE: Pokémon GO, Imperialism, Tantra, Slavery, Animism, Magick, Ethics, etc. Ernest Michael Olmos 8/10/16 10:13 AM
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RE: Pokémon GO, Imperialism, Tantra, Slavery, Animism, Magick, Ethics, etc. Daniel M. Ingram 8/14/16 5:45 AM
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RE: Pokémon GO, Imperialism, Tantra, Slavery, Animism, Magick, Ethics, etc. Daniel M. Ingram 9/18/16 10:48 PM
RE: Pokémon GO, Imperialism, Tantra, Slavery, Animism, Magick, Ethics, etc. tom moylan 9/22/16 4:42 AM
RE: Pokémon GO, Imperialism, Tantra, Slavery, Animism, Magick, Ethics, etc. Illuminatus 9/25/16 9:58 AM
RE: Pokémon GO, Imperialism, Tantra, Slavery, Animism, Magick, Ethics, etc. Daniel M. Ingram 9/26/16 6:41 AM
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Pokémon GO: a blog post, in which perhaps I totally overthink this, or maybe, just maybe, I am onto something...

Enjoy,

Daniel

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8/9/16 1:39 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
I love this. I don't think I'm gonna stop my black magick Pokemon catching ways, but it's an interesting perspective!

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8/9/16 3:48 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
How do we square the universe in which they exist and the framework that has been presented for interacting with them? I haven't played it, but my feeling is that, aside from just observing them in situ, any kind of non-slavery interaction isn't really possible. Perhaps this is the natural relationship which we are meant to have with them, and our liberal values are merely our judgement/thought/perspective?

My son (17) is playing the shit out of this with his geeky pals. I'l have to quiz him about it. He's going to think I've lost it. THANKS Daniel.

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8/9/16 8:59 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
FWIW, I had to disable my Firefox addon HTTPS Everywhere to see the body of text. Not sure what's up with that.

Very very interesting. I just sent you an email about it.

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8/10/16 4:17 AM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
I've been thinking about using pokemon go to have spirits manifest in your surroundings during evocation rituals as a substitute for astral vision before that ability has been sufficiently developed. The method below seems effective in theory at least. I haven't tried it yet, but if anyone does, please leave a report on how it went!

Pokévocation, gotta summon them all!

1. Decide which spirit you want to call upon. For example, if you want a sickness to heal faster, try Raphael, if you want to get laid, Venus, if you want to mess up your life, Asmodeus, if you want good advice, Thoth.
2. Dress up in robes and stuff, get your magickal tools ready, one of which will be your smartphone with a loaded battery. Draw the sigil of the spirit on the back of your smartphone in an kabbalistically appropiate colour.
3. Establish an operative circle and maybe a triangle of art or or an altar or just a chair for the spirit.
4. Activate and consecrate the ritual space. There are many ways to do this but Golden Dawn stuff like the LRP and LRH have become classics for a reason.
5. Get your phone out and start pokemon go.
6. Use the "incense" game mechanic, then circambulate the operative circle while chanting the name of the spirit until a pokemon appears in the game. This is a manifestation of the spirit.
7. Interact with it, ask questions, ask it for favours etc. Divinatory methods can be used to facilitate two-way comunication.
8. Thank and/or banish the entity then close the ritual.

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8/10/16 10:13 AM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
Sometimes I think about the influence of machines (virtual environments), the things that people build with them and their impact on society and reality....

What we think, the things that we imagine, the things we do and reality are more and more interconnected (because of machines).

Of course you can isolate yourself from radio, TV, cellphones, videogames, news, forums, internet, etc (or at least try to use them with ethics and morality in mind).

And things will get a lot, A LOT weirder when machines start to understand and sense the world better.

@PR: nice!

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8/11/16 8:53 AM as a reply to Ernest Michael Olmos.
Ernest Michael Olmos

And things will get a lot, A LOT weirder when machines start to understand and sense the world better.
Indeed..

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/world/europe/110816/russian-woman-finds-pokemon-go-in-her-bed-claims-he-raped-her.html

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8/13/16 4:46 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
I think this boils down to which strategy of handling 'negative energy' one wants.

Imagine this negative energy has the momentum of a train and on its current trajectory is going to run people over.

One strategy is an attempt to renunciate this negative energy. If this negative energy were a train, renunciation would be an attempt to push back against this train outright in the attempt to stop it before it hurts and kills people.

Another strategy would be to divert the train altogether. While it doesn't technically stop the momentum, it changes the direction of the momentum to the place we don't mind the train, like say a closed loop where it runs infinitely or runs out of steam. If we just divert this train and let it run in a loop we have effectively rendered it harmless despite not stopping its negative momentum.

This train can then be seen as the negative, aggressive, and violent tendencies of humans. What Pokemon Go does, what violent sports like football do, is accept this energy and transmute it into play. It doesn't get rid of it, it merely recontextualizes it into play. We went from sharp swords and guns to foam larping swords and nerf guns.

It's merely my hunch, but these playful transmutations are the path of least resistance of taking the negative energy and behaviors of humans and rendering them safer via play. Furthermore, recontextualizing this negative energy as play is something almost everyone can do (Intense meditative/magickal rewiring, not so much), and therefore in terms of scalability is a very effective social strategy to stop violence from spilling over from some indeterminate amount of negative energy.

@RJ: That is an excellent, thoughtful, insightful counterpoint. Nice! Yeah, play!

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8/14/16 7:40 AM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
Thanks for writing about this. It has prompted me to take a closer look.

I have played Pokemon Go there are parts I like and parts that have felt odd (how hard do I try to catch the ones that keep popping out of pokeballs, Trading the to the professor for candy? )

There are very limited ways of interacting with Pokemon.
You can notice them and let them see you or not. If they see you, you can walk away, feed them, and / or throw pokeballs at them to attempt a capture. Once you capture them the only options are see their picture and stats, trade them back to the professor for candy, power them up or evolve them, train them or station them at a gym aligned with you, or fight at a competing gym.

Beyond the standard, see and catch as many as possible, I have at times tried my own variations, e.g. only seeing, greeting and feeding them, no attempts at capture. At others attempting capture but accepting failure and wishing them well and walking away. Still working on it…


One thing I like about it.
The completeness overlay of the pokemon realm. There are gyms, pokestops, possible pokemon appearances on top of ‘our world’. The potential for interaction is always there. Most places I have opened the app some feature of that world is apparent. I am finding that I am aware of both realms even without the app. There is a gym by this store, a pokestop by that one. Krabby’s hang out here, Eevee’s there. Interacting with pokemon in this world using the camera also seems to focus my attention on a more integrated imaginative overlap of the worlds. Can I or another hold them in my hand - as seen by the camera?

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8/17/16 6:01 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
https://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/765988017039249408

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8/19/16 6:46 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
If Pokemon Go is in any way similar to thing you mention in topic title then result will be slightly decreased interest in these things.

Is this a bad thing?

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8/21/16 7:00 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
My understanding is that the fictional world in which pokemon exists is meant to address this somewhat. It's creating a universe in which those actions are skillful and appropriate, which perhaps isn't great since it's not always appropriate in ours... but pokemon I believe are supposed to cleanly benefit from this interaction. They pass out rather than die.

Of course, Empire always tells itself those stories.

Now I want to see a parody game where the creatures escape your control and you gradually are recruited to help them fight for liberty.

​​​​​​​That sounds fairly marketable to me.

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8/22/16 10:33 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
Hi Daniel,

Today I saw this sign on the clinic where I get my allergy shot. emoticon



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9/1/16 1:12 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
In 2012, my husband and I played the beta version of a game called Ingress, which was released by Niantic, Inc., the company that later created Pokemon Go. Ingress was the first location-based augmented reality MMO to be made for smartphones (at least to my knowledge). It has a sci-fi back story where two rival factions, the Enlightened and the Resistance, compete for resources by capturing portals at various geographic locations in meat space. 

When the beta was first released, the virtual overlay was practically bare and players were asked to use their phones to submit photos and GPS coordinates of places of cultural significance, like landmarks, monuments, etc. to create portals.

My husband and I spent some happy weeks biking around the city and creating dozens of portals out of places like occult shops, cemeteries, sites of subversive street art, and an anarchist book collective. Then we got bored and stopped playing and forgot about it by the time the official version was released.

Years later, Niantic releases Pokemon Go. Where are the rare Pokemon hidden? At the sites of Ingress user-submitted portals!

I am quite tickled by the thought of Pokemon players wandering into some of these places to find rare Pokemon, especially now that I'm imagining them as tantric dieties. 


Are you overthinking it? Tens years ago when I was playing a lot more video games, I would have said definitely overthinking it. Nowadays, not so sure. Maybe you're onto something.

That concept was once in vogue in the psych field but research eventually gave evidence that any activity or thought process just intensifies the more it is repeated and both the original behavior and the alternate behavior BOTH become more likely.  The best way to stop doing somethign is not to do a milder version of it, I believe there are various examples in the pali canon about the advised ways to stop doing negative behaviors and doing other negative behaviors was not one of them, so pali canon jives with science on that one.  

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9/17/16 8:20 AM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
Daniel M. Ingram:
Pokémon GO: a blog post, in which perhaps I totally overthink this, or maybe, just maybe, I am onto something...

Enjoy,

Daniel
Daniel,

In your Pokémon GO post, you express concerns about slavery and tyranny.

However, in a recent YouTube video you described yourself as a "raging lefty" who is "sending money to Bernie".

How do you reconcile your dislike of slavery and tyranny, with your desire for a huge government programme to forcibly remove resources from one group of people and give them to another?

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9/18/16 10:48 PM as a reply to Illuminatus.
Just so I understand what you mean, you are equating moderated social capitalism with slavery and tyrrany?

What alternative system to moderated social capitalism are you seriously proposing, and, are you certain that this system would by necessity contain less elements of slavery and tyrrany?

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9/19/16 5:55 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
There is a lot of suffering in the world caused by our god-like race. And it is we who are most sensitive to it because it is our species is also most telepathic.
Surprise surprise, if you do not know what is this background suffering you fell all the time and makes everything as pathetic as whole human race then now you know.

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9/22/16 4:42 AM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
howdy friends,

We are getting political now which means none of us have proof, just beliefs and opinions.  That said, I believe that the dangers of governmental overreach are so far greater than its purported benefits that I would greatly prefer other options. 

@Daniel - your question implies that we (in the USA or elsewhere) are actually experiencing 'moderated social capitalism'.  My opinion on this is that we are in a period where that concept has been so twisted out of shape that another name for it must be found.   Neo-fuedalism is the term that I think most accutrately describes it.

IMO there is nothing at all moderate about how the powers that be have replaced traditional humanistic systems with monolithic, centralized control systems.  Whether we are talking about education, health care, welfare for humans or weapons producers,  the proffered solutions become disabling mechanisms for people and destabilizing systems for communities.

There is no doubt that simply turning the tap off for social programs would have devastating consequences and would be an unconscionable step.  So practically speaking, before even thinking about unraveling these systems there needs to be alternatives.  Traditional, family, extended family and community based systems do not exist any longer so if one is an ideological libertarian, as am I, the practical solution of turning off the government tap is morally equivalent to Nazi death camp participation.

There is the possibility that as the vast social programs die a natural death through their own obiesity or via a wider systemic collapse that the following reorganization could take on a less centralized character which could lean on the benefits of capitalism and the human desire to help others.  Pollyannish, I know.

The government is violence at its core and keeping it small was the main goal of the founding fathers.  They were fully aware of the natures of some people toward greed and avarice and thus developed a system whereby those negative human traits would be held in check.  It worked for a while and is still working to a degree but anyone who follows world events with any level of critical thinking can see that our benign republic has become a monster within and without our borders.

I prefer arguments which are both internally consitent and based on clear nameable assumptions and principles.  So many of the terms and concepts we are taught or learn ourselves are loaded with presumption and coloured by false narrative that it often takes real investigation to see the implicit inconsistencies in our political thinking.  My parents, for example, were eastern liberals.  My father, later in life, became enamoured with more conservative ideologies.  I was in colege at the time and had strenuous arguments with him.  The Mark Twain quote (paraphrased) applies to my situation best: 'When I was 17 years old and went off to college, I couldn't believe how dumb my father was.  When I came back four years later, I was surprised to see how much the old man had learned.'

So, to 'equate moderated social capitalism with slavery and tyranny' is a bit of an 'ad absurdum' argument because it connects an extreme possible position with the base of a complicated position.  There are aspects of slavery and tyranny in both capitalist history and in socialist / communist history.  For anyone to ascribe those particular dark aspects to either one of those systems of government exclusively is being disingenuous.  It is, in my opinion, a fair argument to point out that the most agregious examples of genocide have occured under socialism / communism but to draw the conclusion that any social program is genocidal is also an overstep.

The next obvious point to make for me is that governmental handouts inherently pick winners and losers and that selection process will always become politicized.  That is a socialist model of course and while the opposite extreme of 'not doing anything'  can be interpreted as a cruel argument, it is based on the belief, and supported by historical evidence, that socialism does not end well for anyone.

I for one would love to see a genuine form of free market capitalism implemented but that requires less government involvement, not more.

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9/25/16 9:58 AM as a reply to tom moylan.
Great post, Tom. I'm also libertarian, so agreed with most of it.

However, I'm not so sure about this bit:
tom moylan:
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There is no doubt that simply turning the tap off for social programs would have devastating consequences and would be an unconscionable step.  So practically speaking, before even thinking about unraveling these systems there needs to be alternatives.  Traditional, family, extended family and community based systems do not exist any longer so if one is an ideological libertarian, as am I, the practical solution of turning off the government tap is morally equivalent to Nazi death camp participation.
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Are you sure there is "no doubt"? I think there's plenty of doubt. For all we know, turning the tap off for social programmes might actually cause people to very quickly revert to small-tribe community spirit. Maybe families would start talking to each other again once their meal tickets failed to materialize in their bank accounts courtesy of the Democratic Party. Suddenly charities might become relevant again, where local people voluntarily give their time, effort and money to help local people, directly, face-to-face, for genuine interpersonal reward -- instead of being forced at gunpoint to hand over 40% of their income to an unaccountable central body who will distribute it to faceless millions you will never meet, under the guise of morality, and with all the middlemen and corruption in between taking their slice of the pie.

Humans are nothing if not adaptable. I have a feeling that if social programmes ended tomorrow, somehow we'd all be fine.

"the practical solution of turning off the government tap is morally equivalent to Nazi death camp participation"

Well, no, not really. Participating in a death camp involves actually killing people.

Cutting off welfare just means stopping giving people free stuff.

With a death camp, you are directly killing people. Wtih cutting off welfare, you're just no longer contributing to a system that should never have been there in the first place. It is an act of restitution.

One thing that bothers me about socialists is that they operate under the assumption that the welfare state is something moral. It's not. It uses violence to take money off more responsible people to give it to less responsible people (e.g. people who decide to have babies they can't afford). In the long term the welfare state is very immoral since IQ is strongly heriditary, and the welfare state subsidizes low-IQ people to have more babies. If you want to increase suffering in the world, vastly increase the number of people who literally cannot think.

It's not just the welfare state. Most government programmes do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, and serve to enrich the few who create them. Socialists are de facto for Big Government, thus socialists are enablers of these psychopaths.

Daniel, you are taking a huge gamble by sending your money to the Democratic Party. For all you know that money will go straight into the next series of wars. You are worried about humans enslaving imaginary cartoon creatures on a computer game, but here in reality governments are enslaving actual humans. If you want to help people, continue writing and giving talks (as that is really, REALLY helpful for the world -- and thank you). But don't send money to anonymous, unaccountable, centralized power structures (a.k.a. psychopathic scumbags) and trick yourself into believing it's a moral act.

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9/26/16 6:41 AM as a reply to Illuminatus.
I didn't say I was giving money to the Democratic Party, I am giving money to Bernie himself in an attempt to swing the slightly less right-wing major party in America towards something more progressive.

I agree, wars are likely, particularly as Hillary is center-right, pretty pro-intervention, pro-military-industrial-complex, pro-corporate hegemony, etc. Still, realistically, between her and the orange-haired fascist narcissist whack job, I will take Hillary, and the choice does come down to that. It is profoundly disappointing to one such as myself who was raised by idealistic feminist hippies in the 70's who thought that a woman should be president to end wars, promote peace and families, and sort out the evil that men have done to the world, and the first woman to have a real shot at it seems just like the rest of them, so far as I can tell, and not nearly progressive enough for me.

Clearly, the mainstream wing of the Democratic party is largely bought and paid for by corporate power just like the Republicans are, no doubt, and they are not likely to have our interests in mind when they do what they do, agreed. 

I don't want to get into some long debate criticizing Libertarianism vs Moderate Socialist Capitalism vs other systems, as that could go on for a long time. Suffice to say, we clearly differ in our perspectives.

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9/28/16 3:22 PM as a reply to Illuminatus.
hi edd,
its pretty obvious that whenever anyone invokes naziism as a comparison one invites criticism of the harsh analogy.  despite my belief that libertarianism is the most fair political theology it is the details of moving from the current system to it which i see as problematic.

yes, humans adapt.  but the current paradigm has millions of people utterly dependent upon it and some very deserving or simply the weak dependent people would, starve, freeze or die if a switch were just flipped to "make it so".

that's all i meant.  the institutions which once helped people take care of their neighbors are virtually extinct and thus there is no buffer for those truly in need were their support withdrawn.

to do that cold turkey would have impacts that i would not care to be responsible for.

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9/28/16 4:55 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
Daniel, or anyone theoretically in the non-doer phase of things:

Is it actually worth trying to meddle in "what is"? Do you actually think we have any effect? Can you consciously choose to meddle? Are "YOU" doing the donating to your chosen cause, or is it something you are merely driven to do, or find your "self" doing?

I'm asking out of sincere curiousity, and with no political agenda to grind in this thread (it's not why I come here. emoticon  )

I am just starting work with watching "doing", but it's still developing. Asking these questions for myself, having read many ideas, or presentations of this stage.

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9/28/16 8:14 PM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
"the orange-haired fascist narcissist whack job"

i would guess that neither candidate is displaying their natural hair color.  i think the word fascist describes the melding of state and corporate power.  narcissist may be accurate but 'whack job' is just an ad hominum insult.

i am personally much more concerned about illary's very real track record as secretary of state and her active role in both arkansas and as co-president in the white house.  her policies to destabilize libya and execute khaddafi are just a small a part of her history of cold hearted action.  her lies about EVERYTHING are concerning.  she is a perfect representation of the establishment that is responsible for the state of the world we live in.  additionally i believe she is ill and mentally unstable.

trump is wrong on a lot of things but IMO hillary is so wrong on everything that i could not go with the girl.

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10/16/16 6:37 AM as a reply to Stirling Campbell.
Stirling Campbell:
Daniel, or anyone theoretically in the non-doer phase of things:

Is it actually worth trying to meddle in "what is"? Do you actually think we have any effect? Can you consciously choose to meddle? Are "YOU" doing the donating to your chosen cause, or is it something you are merely driven to do, or find your "self" doing?

I'm asking out of sincere curiousity, and with no political agenda to grind in this thread (it's not why I come here. emoticon  )

I am just starting work with watching "doing", but it's still developing. Asking these questions for myself, having read many ideas, or presentations of this stage.