Nik,

I'm curious as to what value you see, for anyone, in the above posts by 3T? This is a legitimate question not an attempt to stir up any confrontation.

Pawel,
3T was invited here by Daniel, so don't hold your breath he will chose to chase him off.


Brian.

Nathan offers a unique viewpoint here. I appreciate all the talk of void, outflows and inflows and have communicated with nathan via email in the past and found what he has to share extremely valuable. Talk of void/deathless has triggered practice that is beneficial for myself.

I may be biased due to past conditioning. He was the person who led me to consider 'hacking vedana' as a useful tool on the path, which I have found very useful. Although I agree, it is hard to navigate some of his seemingly cryptic posts, since I am interested in outflows and inflows, inclining towards the 'deathless' whatever that means, and how to end agitation and conceit, his posts can doubly act as a trigger and as a guide to turning attention to where it should be turned. In a nutshell what he has to share is valuable to my current practice. Plus, i currently see great value in having certain inflows trigegred so that I see to it they cease to become outflows.

I still urge him to consider the means by which he posts for the benefit of those who don't care to explore their inflows and outflows triggered by his posts. I think this place needs from time to time a James Yen or Triplethink or even someone with actualist/theravadin/mahayana/non-sectarian/whatever-viewpoint-is-different-from-my-own calenture to ruffle people's feathers. Practice wise, it is valuable to not become complacent about how equanimous one has become due to baseline shifts (talking about myself). Specific neutrality or equanimity is something that can be developed outside of the 11th nana (which is where equanimous feeling, more encompassing perception AND specific neutrality come together to trigger results).

Though it no way am I saying stop reacting towards his posts. Like I said, there are a variety of ways to respond towards Triplethink's posts. All of those ways are accepted here at the DhO. Practice -wise though, which is more conducive for progress?

Nick

Thank you Nikolai, that was most salutary.

As I have repeatedly, multiply and explicitly stated; please do respond or react or what have you. I have endeavored to open up multiple avenues specifically for anyone to do so specific to me.

If this is not sufficient I am willing to open up a triplereader thread to assist with reading and to assist also with accessing the appropriate resources.

Again, as for claims, I have specifically and I expect multiply stated that I do not like the word enlightened or enlightenment. I do not think it is at all useful given the non-specificity of the wide employment of the terms. So...

I have also stated, similarly, in many ways, that making claims is similarly counter-productive of and for results.

These are MY TERMS and MY FRAMES OF REFERENCE in general on such themes.

Now to a specific counter example, for today thus far.

I can easily claim to have made, today, some 30 posts, some 28 of which are now claims to post space for the establishment of a future Beastiary or Bestiary of DO or DhO mythic creatures and creations, etc..

You might also note in this regard that I have 'claimed the entire greek alphabet!' Sweet. So, 'Mine, hands off!' ; }

So with this in mind, too bad, neener neener, you all had your chance to do so before the lightning struck this old tree. Perhaps get up earlier in your own days and make some hay or whatever. It's not like I am squatting in your living room or meditation hut. If I do do so at some point, for some odd reason, I should hope you will let me know that. Please state very clearly that I have done this or that misdeed, or made such and so forth some misstatement, at such a point as that!

Also, this day so far, or Thus FAR, I could easily note to have claimed; 2 cups of coffee, one shower, the first hour of "Ridley Scott's - Robin Hood" and one very well appointed package of "Shin Ramyun - Gourmet Spicey - 120g".
So there. Eat your bowls out!

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So, very quiet day on the ol' Dho, or as I prefer to consider it, the DO. So I did a lot of other stuff today instead, it's essentially Sunday now according to the "non-sense method" adopted by techno-sapiens in the period after falling under the spell of time keeping machinery.

Imagine that, near God-like beings beholdin' to a bunch of ticking machines! Well whatever 'paints your stick', I guess. Never did "get it".

Watches drop dead on my wrist. I have tried a few quite expensive ones. Has always been this way. Go figure.

I always liked electronics. I was into it as a kid. Won a lot of science fair prizes at the University back in the day. Before the dark days, and I realized, they are only interested in enslaving each other ever deeper to their machinations and machinery.

Well, I'll tell you this much, machines are idiots and do not give a shit about human beings.

As a matter of fact right now I have the last decent consumer PC waiting for a boot right here when the laptop finally cooks for the last time.

It is a Mac Pro Tower w/ 128 Gb of RAM installed and it is just sitting there waiting for the day when I take an interest.

Even so, even if I had a faster Quad Processor than it has, even if I had the Quantum processor that the NSA or Google had I would still be spending most of my time doing something else while I waited for the stupid mindless piece of machinery to simply clunk through it's bits and bytes of bs.

So mostly the machines in my life are in the OFF position, because I can hear all of those whirring bits of crap flying around and the megahertz of buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz cutting through everything out of the grid.

Give me a campfire and a bedroll and I am a happy camper.

Jeeeeeeeeeeziz.

Happy light en mintz.

Seriously, I use the machinery, I just don't rely on any of it, for anything. A person, a species, can become extinct that way.

-triplethink

Nick,

Like almost everyone here my day is filled, sometimes over filled, with opportunities to have "certain inflows trigegred so that I see to it they cease to become outflows". I do this constantly throughout my day. If I want further mindless twaddle then my day affords I can watch any number of TV shows. I come to DhO for clear and phenomenological based dharma discussions.

I'm glad he has been of help to your practice. I guess that's reason enough to put up with a mountain of silliness.

Thanks for the response.

Brian

Heyyyy, thanks for the shout out (kind of).

Um, I don't really have an opinions on Triplethink's recent posts, I'm trying to avoid doing too much mental and spiritual stuff. Recently I my life has been quite dysfunctional, as well as sexually frustrated, lots of mood swings too.

That's pretty much it, I'm basically insane, possibly manic-depressive, and very, very, weird.

Shout-out to my... dharma brothers and sisters.

Much love,

James

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