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Sam's Practice Log 2

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This is a continuation of my first practice log, in which I hope to apply what I've learned so far.

HISTORY
A lot of my practice history both pre-DhO and DhO learning about noting can be found here. I talk about nothing happening for 7 years. Most of it was Tibetan under Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche. Since I joined DhO and switched back to Vipassana, mainly at-loud Mahasi style noing and the addition of my teacher, I entered the path at Dukka Nana 9 Desire for Deliverance, passed through Reobservation and now am in Low-EQ.

MY DAILY PRACTICE
My daily practice consists of one hour in the AM (20 minutes concentration/jhana and 40 minutes Mashai Noting) and 30 minutes (15 minutes concentration/15 minutes noting). 

MY INSPIRATIONS

Thank you for reading and feel free to offer your comments.
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60 min Sit (20 min Jhanic Practice, 40 min Noting)


Another case of not sleepy or dull, maybe that only happens in retreat. Started out with good energy, then went into Concentration and begin thinking of coffee instead of the breath emoticon but recognized and came back, Then it was into noting and the good energy continued. Lots of movement in the feet (going to talk to Psych at 1PM if I have developed TD). Anyway, no boredom, no issues, maybe even a little calm.

BODY Foot pain, itching, legs movement, sore & achy arms, tension & tightness lower back, very tight back of the neck
VISUAL FIELD: Pulsating white light -> gone
SOUND landscaping equipment, dog barking -> gone, large AC outside
THOUGHTS Dr. Kycia (Psyc) Thoughts, Future planning thoughts, Desire for coffee, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts
EMOTIONS/FEELING TONES Mostly calm and was pleasent 

GENERAL FEELINGS Pretty near perfect but could use some insights once in a while 


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30 Min PM Sit (15 min Jhana Practice, 15 min Noting)

I was full of energy for this one. The concentration practice was filled with thoughts of this new practice log and whether people would like it. On the other hand, the Noting practice was so fast that I had hardly any thoughts at all.

BODY I don't remember the order of things but I had three different instances of small headache like sensations. I had a heavingness on the top of the head that I applied gone to when it ceased. I had a throbbing at the back of the skull -> gone, and I also had some throbbing at the forehead -> gone. My arms felt energetic and energy traveled very fast between the fingers generating so many sensations (3-4x/sec). There was tightness and tension in both the shoulders abd back of the neck. Ankle pain was present as well as itching.
SOUND There was a lot of gurgling sounds, as well as notcicing the hot water heater turned on.
THOUGHTS Many of the already mentioned log during concentration then the occasional thought during noting.
EMOTIONS/FEELING TONE Things were pretty unemotional except an urgency to note faster which was neutral.

GENERAL FEELINGS This was another good one. Energy instead of calm.
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60 min AM Sit (20 min Jhanic Practice, 40 min Noting)

OFF CUSHIONI should note that I was diagnosed yesterday with Tardive Diskensia (TD) which causes involuntary muscle movements like my mouth, arms, and the legs. To the amount that this affected my meditation remains to be seen and discussed with Abre as the leg movements of what we thought as Dukkha Nana Desire for Deliverance might have been TD.I stayed up late last night and boy did I just pay for it in my meditation. It started out with sensations of fullness, heavingness, and pressure. Then I went into Concentration. It seemed like thoughts quieted down in the thoughts but it it was more than I was off somewhere and less mindful. Then went back into noting, and I immediately noticed strong tiredness, dullness, boredom and even some bits of sleepiness. I tried to apply Abre's method to energize myself out of the tiredness but I must have not been doing it correctly.
BODY There was a lot of tension in the legs area. In addition to the legs moving around, i had ankle pain and shin pain. In the upper body, there was tension and tightness in the back of the neck and in the lower back. Other sensations included sensitive and achy arms as well as itching and watery eyes.
SOUND There was a bunch of people out in the hallway. I also heard the loud AC units outside and the sound of the fridge.
THOUGHTS There were thoughts on the whole TD thing,  Logging Thoughts, DhO thoughts, Abre thoughts, Dr. Kycia thoughts
EMOTIONS, FEELING STATE The emotions of dullness, tiredness, and boredom were prominent and were most definetly unpleasent.
GENERAL FEELINGS Could have been better but its ok, its practice

Could I ask a favor? Any of you readers care to comment on the new format of the new log and whether it makes things easier to read and understand?
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Could I ask a favor? Any of you readers care to comment on the new format of the new log and whether it makes things easier to read and understand?


Hey Sam.
I like this new format more than the previous one, mainly because of its fonts, its classic. Although I am not sure it makes it easier to read or not. I think if you like it you should do it, who cares about the readers! ;)
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Yes I like that new format as introduced by Niels. I see some other members are also using the same format. It does make things easier to follow. I would also use it if Im more disciplined, but being me, very raw and immediate, I just spill out into my log all that comes to mind in the moment and wish good luck to those unfortunate who might read it emoticon 
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30 min PM Sit (15 min Jhana Practice, 15 min Noting)

Lots of energy, opposite of this morning. The Concentration practice was so there - I thought to myself "wow, I'm going to get access concentration" but oh so close. High speed noting (4x/sec) that sometimes overwhelmed me. 
BODY New was muscle jerks sometimes the whole body. There was trembling as well. An itch on the right shoulder I was able to catch the ceasing with gone. There was a lot of tingling. I had both shin and foot pain. There was heat in a small spot of my right wrist, strange because the whole rest of the body was cold with the AC. Tension and tightness in both the lower back and back of the neck. I had "Enegetic arms" and energy traveling between the fingers causing many notings.
SOUND A strong thunderstorm was heard as well as the AC
EMOTIONS, FEELING TONE A strong sense of energy 

GENERAL FEELINGS Energy instead of calm but great
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60 min AM Sit (20 min Jhana Practice, 40 min Noting)

Went to bed too late again last night and suffered again. Both the concentration practice and the noting were just filled with tired & sleepiness, dullness & boredom.

BODY Everything was pretty flat with dullness but I had foot pain, ankle pain, eyes watering, itching, tension & tightness in the back and in the back of my neck while the arms were sore & achy.
SOUND My louad upstairs neighbor was up to her usual tricks running her very loud washer. I also heard some sea gulls. THOUGHTS I hate shaving thoughts, Future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts
EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES The main emotion was tiredness along with dullness and boredom which were unpleasent.

GENERAL FEELINGS Not my best sitting. 
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Sam Gentile:
60 min AM Sit (20 min Jhana Practice, 40 min Noting)

Went to bed too late again last night and suffered again. Both the concentration practice and the noting were just filled with tired & sleepiness, dullness & boredom.

BODY Everything was pretty flat with dullness but I had foot pain, ankle pain, eyes watering, itching, tension & tightness in the back and in the back of my neck while the arms were sore & achy.
SOUND My louad upstairs neighbor was up to her usual tricks running her very loud washer. I also heard some sea gulls. THOUGHTS I hate shaving thoughts, Future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts
EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES The main emotion was tiredness along with dullness and boredom which were unpleasent.

GENERAL FEELINGS Not my best sitting. 

Indeed emoticon again and again Dukkha shows it self in form of some sense of "me" not liking this and prefering something else instead. However Anicca also shows itself in form of passing away of that "not so best sit" and arising in form of a "my great feeling sit" and then back to "oh, gawd what a crap sit" etc ... That clinging is the source of suffering. Its ok. We are sitting to realise that. Just simple noting and accepting all weather its pleasant, neutral or unpleasant. We learn to know that these couds, dark or bright arise and pass just to arise and pass again and again. So its not about us trying to stop this unfolding. If not that then what are we doing? We are allowing the realisation to mature, that all these clouds of experience with their feeling tones do what they do as we are not in control of them anyway. The "me" having this experience is just an idea, a very glue like sticky knee-jerk idea that claims any given experience, solidifying it into a concept of "my experience".

We cant really think our selves into this realisation. What we can do is observe this unfolding and accept it all no matter how nice or bad it feels and keep our daily sits going as this momentum is what does the damage to this "selfing idea". There is an itch, there is unpleasant, there is aversion, there is hearing, knowing its a neighbours loundry machine, there is aversion, there is agony, there is Acceptance, there is vibration in fingers and feet, its pleasant etc  ...

You are doing great as long you are doing the practice. After the storm comes the Sun, then storm then Sun again ... Anicca  emoticon 
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60 min AM Sit (20 min Jhanic Practice, 40 min Noting)

Father Buddha gave me the day off yesterday emoticon

Well, I am getting in a real rut. Yesterday, I couldn't even get myself to practice and today, although I completed the meditation I was filled with tiredness, sleepiness, dullness and boredom. I don't even know how to get myself out of it. My body doesn't even want to meditate anymore and I can't drink coffee anymore because of its effects on my gut. So today, I practically slept through the meditation.
BODY Too dull to note much but I had back pain,  foot pain, shin pain, feet moving around, eye pain & watering, itching & scratching
SOUND Car horn and sound of outdoor AC
THOUGHTS Fustration thoughts, Abre thoughts, planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

GENERAL FEELINGS Good thing I have an appointment with Abre today
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"Father Buddha gave me the day off yesterday"

You did deserve it emoticon it's ok to let go sometimes. Once back you see it with fresh eyes so to speak. At times meditation can get rather mechanical which is not good. It needs to have that fresh organic feel to it, that noting attention "touching" gently each sensation and that accepting curiosity of the unfolding of experiential Thisness. 

Indeed, it's so good to have a teacher in such situations. I'm very grateful for the teacher I've had. 
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Meeting with Abre

So imagine a conversation like

"How are you doing?"
"Awful. I feel totally sleepy and want to stop meditating"
"Excellent! A change. Things are moving"

She proceeded to discuss with me that Nana 10 Knowledge of Reoberservation is totally characterized by drowziness and sleepiness. 

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/mahasi/progress.html#ch6.10
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Good news emoticon I like your teacher!

Now all you need is bring Acceptance to the fore and keep it in mind as Re-observation stuff comes in. "Its ugly" yes it is, I accept it, "its unpleasant" yes it is I accept it all, "its myserable" yes it is I accept it, "its disgusting" yes it is, I accept it all no matter how unpleasant it is ... "feels like my whole world is falling apart and is utterly unpleasant" yes it is and I accept it all, one by one as they arise and pass away, and even if bombarded by the same stuborn object/sensation/mind state/feeling again and again I take all those hits and I accept it all ... you will feel so much better after such a sit if accepntance was there throughout emoticon 

Yogi Sam, I salute you! emoticon 
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30 Minute PM Sit (15 min Jhanic Practice, 15 min Noting)

I have absoluetly no idea what Abre did to me! I had sleepiness all day and I wasn't even going to do a PM sit. She did a few tricks during our meeting, maybe she pit a spell on me emoticon but I had no coffee and yet here I was all energized! I felt energetic and wide awake. The concentration was average with pesky thoughts. The nothing was amazing. Fast noting (3x/sec). It's like Nana 10 went hiding in a closet.

BODY Restless feet, foot pain, itching, tender & sore arms, tender & sore shoulders, tension and tightness in the lower back
VISUAL FIELD I saw a yellow ball then gone
SOUND I heard people walking outside and in other apartments of this building.
THOUGHTS Abre thoughts, remebering thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts 
EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES I had the emotions of energetic which was pleasent followed by relaxation and calm.

GENERAL FEELINGS This was the best meditation in a week
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I have absoluetly no idea what Abre did to me! I had sleepiness all day and I wasn't even going to do a PM sit. She did a few tricks during our meeting, maybe she pit a spell on me emoticon

Probably, talking to her:
It was a reminder for you that a) you are not alone b) there is hope.
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Siavash:
I have absoluetly no idea what Abre did to me! I had sleepiness all day and I wasn't even going to do a PM sit. She did a few tricks during our meeting, maybe she pit a spell on me emoticon

Probably, talking to her:
It was a reminder for you that a) you are not alone b) there is hope.
Thanks Siavash! 
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60 min AM Sit (20 min  Jhanic Practice, 40 min Noting)

Well, if there was a spell it sure has worn off. I had one of the most hellish sits. Abre did worn me I was in Nana 10 range with drowziness and sleepiness could be part of my sits for weeks. I had complete heavingness, tiredness, sleepiness, dullness and boredom. Dullness was so bad that I didn't note for chuncks of the meditation but hung in this state of just everything being flat. Paradoxically, at around 40 minutes in, I started having the desire for coffee, which when I decided to do that, I "woke up" out of this state. I don't understand. Anyway, the last 20  minutes, I had sufficient energy to note well.

BODY Tension and tightness at the lower back, itching, scratching, hands tender and sore, foot pain, legs movement, eyes watering, abdominal pressure
SOUND I heard three car horns and the large AC units outside
THOUGHTS I don't want to meditate anymore (Dukkha Nana 9), Future planning thoughts, Logging thoughts, DhO
EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES  I really felt that it was almost overwhelming. I felt heavingness, sleepiness, tirredness, dullness and boredom, all of which was percieved as unpleasent

GENERAL FEELINGS There are no bad sits. Good practice for the place in which I am in
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Studied Module 1 of Tibetan Three Yanas Course


30 Min PM Sit (15 min Jhanic Practice, 15 min Noting)


What a difference coffee makes! I hate ping ponging like this on the logs and in general but I write what happens. Anyway, Concentration practice was good but still having to put my attention back on the breath. Noting was totally energetic rather than calm which is great. I noted a lot more with the coffee and the rate was more 3x/sec.
BODY There was a minute or two of cheek discomfort which I dismissed with Gone on its disolution. Same thing with a short lived headache over the left eye (in the eyebrow). The itching was actually pretty intense and unpleasent. Abre said itching was a big issue in this yana. I had both foot and shin pain. The legs were again in motion. I had a stiff and tight neck. There was tension and tightness in the lower back. VISUAL FIELD There was some strobing white light for about a minute. SOUND The typical outside AC units THOUGHTS Thoughts were few (less than 10?) in the Noting practice EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES I don't know if acceptance is an emotion but that's what I felt and it was quite pleasent.

GENERAL FEELINGS Very satisfying
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Sit #3 Waking Up app Daily Meditation 20 minutes

Sam Harris directed us to focus and concentrate onn sound which I did pretty well. Then he asked me to look if there was a Center or Self that was listening. I directed my awareness to where I feel my Self is, behind my eyes, but of course no such self could be found. SOUNDS Sam Harris, large AC units outside, AC indoors
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60 min AM Sit (20 min Jhana Practice, 40 min Noting)

I had a bit of the same tiredness, dullness, and boredom but it did not dominate the sit. I would say that sound dominated the sit. BODY Foot pain, legs movement, itching/scratching, lower back tension and tightness, stiff and tight neck, arms tender and sore SOUND There were the sounds of the landscaping equipment, my loud upstairs neighbor using her loud washer and workers yelling to each other THOUGHTS Food shopping thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES As mentioned there were the emotions of tiredness, dulllness and boredom all unpleasent

GENERAL FEELINGS Just more practice
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30 min PM Sit (15 min Jhanic Practice, 15 min Noting)

Plenty of energy. Concentration practice was pretty good. Am wondering how my OCD effects frequency of discursive thoughts? For the noting practice, on the other hand, the noting was so fast and the mindfulness so good that I can remember 3 thoughts. 

BODY Slight headache in forhead, strange sensation in upper left chest -> gone, right underarm pain  -> gone, urinary tension, foot pain, shin pain, tension & tightness in the lower back, strong tenderness & soreness in arms, high speed sensations in the fingers, stiff & tight neck, lots of itching & scratching SOUND Plane overhead -> gone, sound of outside AC units VISUAL FIELD Pale yellow sun short lived 

GENERAL FEELINGS Very good meditation with increased body awareness
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60 min AM Sit (20 min Jhanic Pratice, 40 min Noting)

I didn't get my customary sleepiness and even had a little energy I just started getting a little bored after the 40 minute mark but it was ok. Concentration practice was reasonable.

BODY Fullness, heavingness, pressure, foot pain, knee pain, legs moving, arms tender and sore, tension & tightness in the lower and mid back. stiff and tight neck, watery eyes, left ear pain SOUND I got so fustrated because my noisy upstairs neighbor did laundry again the very loud washer. I should not get fustrated but you should hear how loud it is. Here it goes again! I also heard the outside AC units THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, Desire for coffee, Future  planning thoughts, Logging thoughts, DhO thoughts, Remembering thoughts 

GENERAL FELINGS Pleased I had energy 

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30 min PM Sit (no Concentration, All Noting)

For this sit, I was feeling stressed and anxious, so I decided to focus on my noting. The notice was fast (1-3x/sec) and I had a host of body sensations for whatever is going on. Mindfulness was great.

BODY eyelids hurt, urinary tension, neck really tight, trembling, sensations in right ear, a strange sensation in left shoulder that was like a cross between numbing and tingling, pain  in my right thumb, slight headache in forhead, numbness in right hand, back pain, neck pain, itching at tip of nose THOUGHTS The stress, anxiety, fear and worry produced some thoughts but the speed of the noting kept the thoughts down SOUND Just the large AC units outside EMOTIONS, FEELING TONE Emotions were the prodiminant sensation. I am going through something. I felt stress, and anxiety and fear about the stress. Worries about the day were also felt.

GENERAL FEELINGS I was able to sit through the fear.
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Well done Sam! DN Nanas can be mild to full on horrible in feeling tone. Just remind yourself that acceptance of it all, in no matter what shape or form it seems to present itself, is the way through it. This is especially important in the re-observation as most of the DN Nanas can arise in the same wave. As with all waves, they do the same thing emoticon they pass away. Hold onto Acceptance and matter of fact noting/noticing for the duration of the sit emoticon I know, as many here do, that these mind states and feelings suck big time, but it feels so good if you let it all wash over you without resistance emoticon and yes, noting does chops up these unpleasant arisings so it's in a way easier staring straight into their eyes , so to speak emoticon 

You ARE doing great! 
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FULL DISCLOSURE I did not meditate the last 2 days at all because I fell into this pattern of not wanting to do it with all the sleepiness

60 min AM Sit (20 min Jhanic Practice, 40 minute Noting)

What a suprisee! No tiredness or dullness or boredom, actually energetic!  I started out with fullness/heavingness and pressure but did not  get sleepy from them. Then I went into concentration. The concentration practice was pretty good. Then it was back into noting. The energy levels stayed up. The noting wasn't ultra fast like when I have had coffee but I averaged abou 1x/sec. I had my usual places of body sensations - I'm getting old emoticon

BODY As mentioned, started out with heavingness, fullness, pressure. As noting progressed, I had tightness and tension in myy lower back and upper back, stiff and tight neck, itching/scratching, tingling, foot pain, knee pain and a fair amount of leg movement VISUAL FIELD I saw crimson red surrounding the circular area and then cover the whole visual area. I also the whole VF covered in white light SOUND There were the usual sounds of the large AC units outside THOUGHTS I had less thoughts during noting but they were still there. Staci thoughts, future planning thoughts, no logging or DhO thoughts however EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES This was a pretty even keeled sitting. I can't remember any real emotions

GENERAL FEELINGS A really great sit that was really needed
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30 min PM Sit (All Noting)

Lots of energy for this one (well it was coffee fueled emoticon). Noting was fast (3x/sec).  BODY Sensations in both ears, buzzing feeling in head, bicep soreness & tenderness, unshaven beard itchiness, muscle jerk (just one), urinary tension, shin tenderness, feelings of foot sinking down into carpet, trembling, foot pain. itching & scratching, tension & tightness at the waist, neck tension & tightness SOUND For the billionith time, my upstairs neighbor running her loud washer, sound of large AC units outside VISUAL FIELD Saw concentric circles of white THOUGHTS Staci thoughts Logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES Anger and aversion at my neighbor running her loud washer again! She runs like 6 loads every day and sometimes in the middle of the night

General Feelings Another good one

Questions
  • How do most effectively deal with the anger that is coming up with my neighbor's ecessive washing?
  • My noting is humming along but I'm not generating any insights? Do I need to wait until things calm down out of Dukka Nana stage of Reobservation and I got back into Equanamity or is there something more I oculd be doing
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30 min PM Sit (only Noting)

Finally my stomach issues settled down so I could meditate. A very energetic sit with fast noting (3x/sec). A lot was going on in my body, not so much in my mind.

BODY lips pulsating under nose, heavingness in head -> gone, coolness, itch on right knee -> gone, urinary tension, itch on left shoulder -> gone, shoulder pain, trembling, small "micro pains" in fingers, pressure in the forehead over the eyes, slight headache, muscle jerks (i think 2), tingling, jaw tension, itching & scratching, arms aching and sore VISUAL FIELD patterns of white light SOUND the large AC units outside THOUGHTS far and few between but some planning, logging and DhO thoughts EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES not really present as I was focused on fast noting

GENERAL FEELINGS A good one for sure with a high degree of noticing/noting
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Note To Readers

If there are any of you out there, I have only managed to meditate 2x in over 5 days and only for 30 minutes. It seems like I've lost my motivation for meditation. If you have anything to encourage my motivation, please say it!

Sit #1 30 min (Noting Only)

I finally managed to sit if only for 30 minutes with the support of coffee. I still felt a little tired even with the coffee. The rate of Noting fluncuated (1-3x/sec).
BODY Left underarm pain, head buzzing, shoulders heavy, tingling in right arm, right shoulder tender + tight, slight headache, trembling, foot pain, ankle pain, shin tenderness, tension & tightness around waist VISUAL FIELD Concentric orange circles SOUND large AC units outside THOUGHTS few and far between but included future planning, logging, and DhO thoughts EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES no real emotions, kind of flat

GENERAL FEELING  Just glad to get one in there

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Sit #2 30 Minutes Noting

I managed to get myself to meditate for a 2nd time. The big story here was itching. It was like I was ttacked by itching and some of it was actually sharp, more like a prick. I managed to catch, through mindfulness, the vanishings of some of them using Shinzen Young's Gone technique.

BODY itch on right eyebrow -> gone, itch on top of my head -> gone, itch on the back of my head -> gone, itch on front of my head -> intensifying -> itch of the century -> resisting -> give in and scratch, slight headache, foot movement, really tight neck and shoulders, shaky, trembling, urinary tension, underarm pain , foot pain, arms achy & sore, coolness SOUND the usual large AC units outside THOUGHTS Abre thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging and DhO thoughts

GENERAL FEELINGS  Happy that I got a 2nd sit in
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Hey Sam,

Brute force advice, loss of interest for meditation could mean equanimity is settling in. It seems to happen qite a bit that people who lose the "dukkha" insentive to meditate kind of stop, and then cycle back down, and go through a kind of DN->EQ loop with difficulty moving past that until they're sick of it and decide to go through with it no matter what emoticonemoticonemoticon

Well, it also happens that one loses interest sometimes emoticon. I also have trouble meditating these days.

Good luck with you motivation, you can make formal resolutions from time to time. The summer is here, but the winter will return, right ?

Cheers emoticon
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Thank you for your reso\ponse. Abre said I was knocking on the door of equanimity.
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Actually, Abre just skyped me and said its not equanimity because if it was I woulldn't want to meditate because everything is so good rather than my case where things aren't. She's says I'm being a Drama Queen emoticon. She says I've made this commitment, now do it. Continue and push through it. There will be lots of days where motivation will not be there. Don't wait for th emuse. What else am I going to do all day? Develop the habit. What is the big drama? Practice is not when you feel like it but always. Don't take it so seriously - no drama.

That's why I really like her. She's tough when she has to be.
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Like T DC said in another thread.

The chicks Sam - do it for the chicks.  ;)
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60 min AM Sit (20 min Concentration, 40 min Noting)

First time back to 60 minute sits in 6 days. I'm tempted to say "what a disaster" because there are no bad sits but I was so tired/sleepy and dull/bored that I was fighting off sleep the whole time. I had long stretches where I didn't even note and I was daydreaming and having wandering thoughts. I am happy I was able to fight through it. 

BODY From what little I noted, I had pulsations at the bottom of my left foot, tingling, foot pain, tension & tightness around the waist, abdominal pressure, intense yawning, watery eyes and runny node, knees shaking violently SOUND I don't remember any THOUGHTS Lots of random mind wandering and daydreams. I remember some Abre thoughts, future planning thoughts EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES Powerfull emotion of dullness - didn't feel like doing anything, Boredom, Tiredness, Sleepiness

GENERAL FEELINGS Hope for a better one tonight after coffee
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Afternoon Dharma
Studying in Module 1 of Minyur Rinpoche's The Three Yanas course


30 min PM Sit (All Noting)

Much better than this morning. Lots of energy to notice and fast note (3x/sec) a lot of sensations. Like last night's sit, I was bombarded with itching. 

BODY Lots of noticing and noting. Itch on left shoulder -> gone, Restless feet, tremor in my hands, arms heavy, neck stiff & rigid, knee pain, foot pain, shin tenderness, urinary tension, underarm pain, itch on forehead -> gone, knee pain, clicking sound in jaw as I noted outloud, upper back pain, shaky, trembling SOUND heavy upstairs neighbor stomping around, large AC units outside THOUGHTS few and far between except the thought on writing this sentence

GENERAL FEELINGS Completly satisified
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60 min AM Sit (20 min Jhanic Practice, 40 min Noting)

I skipped another day yesterday and took a nap. I was going to do it again today but got a sudden burst of energy. It was enough to keep me awake for the site but not alert. I had a pretty significant amount of tiredness, yawning, dullness and boredom. Noting sufffered because of my dull state.

BODY kness shaking, shin pain, feet moving, pain in the middle back, coolness, foot pain, ankle pain, slight headache, tightness & tension at the back of the head, heavingness in arms, diminished amount of itching & scratching SOUND high pitched tone in left ear for about 10 seconds, large AC units outside THOUGHTS lots of random discursive thoughts 

GENERAL IMPRESSIONS kind of normal for where I'm at right now but unpleasent
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60 min AM Sit (20 min Jhanic Practice, 40 min Noting)

Haven't meditated for 3 days because of my medical diagnosis (I'll write about in different topic). Nothing has changed. Still very tired, dull and bored. Reduced noting because of the dullness. Still don't really want to meditate even after Abre's pep talk - glad I have an appointment with her today.

BODY lower back tension & tightness, mid back pain, foot pain, legs moving, itching (not as much), heavingness in arms, abdominal pressure SOUND lots of landscaping equipment, AC THOUGHTS Abre thoughts, coffee desires, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS, FEELING TONES emotions of Dullness and Boredom

GENERAL FEELINGS Glad I got this one in
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Sit #2 22 min Abre Guided Relaxation Meditation

Because of my disease and all my stress Abre guided me in a relaxation (breath) meditation smiling at all the bdy parts and taking deep breaths. I feel quite relaxed.

Given my diagnosis and difficulty getting to the meditation cushion whe wants me to forget about 60 minute noting meditation, stream entry, dharma overground and relax myself from my condition and my stress and do this relaxation meditation. Readers: Are you even going to want to read about daily relaxation meditations on DhO or is too boring.
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Hi Sam,
This is your life journey, why should it be boring?
Please do whatever that is helpful for you. I see in myself that most of my health problems are because I am not relaxed enough. If your teacher wants you to be relaxed and you trust her, then that is what is impotant at this point.

I wish you a healthy body and a peaceful mind.
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Only do logging if its pleasing/inspiering to you to do so. If its a chore and taking too much effort and focus from the practice/calming/relaxation then stop logging for now and use the log for questions and updates as they come. 

I do follow your log even when I dont log or write on the forum.
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Sit #3 PM Sit Abre Guided Relaxation Meditation

Using the Buddha Inner Smile to smile at body parts while taking deep breaths. I am completly calm and relaxed.
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22 min AM Abre Relax Meditation
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Sam Gentile:
22 min AM Abre Relax Meditation

How was the feeling tone of this sit ? emoticon Is mind interested and engaged in smiling to the body parts? 
I guess you can give us a few details emoticon gimme som readn' boyo emoticon emoticon ;) 
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Sam Gentile:
22 min AM Abre Relax Meditation

How was the feeling tone of this sit ? emoticon Is mind interested and engaged in smiling to the body parts? 
I guess you can give us a few details emoticon gimme som readn' boyo emoticonemoticon ;) 

I was afraid about trying to write about this type of meditation. I'm not sure mind understands this concept of the buddha inner smile to the head. I just trying my best to do a buddha smile in the direction of the body part. The feeling tone is pleasent.

22 min PM Abre Guided Relax Meditation
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I'm sure it's something that needs a bit of getting used to just like anything else. 

I used to do hands-on self-Reiki back in 2008 which is similar to what you do (instead of smile sending healing energy to the body parts) . Placing palms of my hands from top of the head and all the way down to the feet. Would take me around 20-30 minutes to get through all the position. It's sending Ki energy to that part of the body, one feels the heat of the palms against the body. It's a good practice. I think Kenneth Folk suggests hands on body when teaching Direct Path. Maybe Abre knows more about it. It certainly can be a helping tool. 
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Sorry I haven't been online for a few days. I'm still trying to process the diagnosis of Atypical Parkionism. I just mope around the apartment and haven't even done Abre's 20 min Relaxation meditation. On top of it, I've had some stomach problems. I want to ask a very strange question. When I do meditations like Abre's that involve a lot of deep breathing, I generate a lot of air in my colon from the deep breaths which causes a lot of gas afterwards. I know this sounds strange but does anyone experience anythinng like this?
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Sounds perfectly natural to me Sam! When I get the lower belly going either through deep breathing, or just going for walks or even runs I will generally fart a lot! Farting is healthy in my opinion! Also gives new oportunities to be NOTED emoticon the sense of smelling is being involved emoticon note it, note it emoticon 

In case you feel like going back to noting (Im not saying you should , but only in case you start feeling the need), try and focus only on the body sensations and relaxing the body (while noting you can scan the body for tension and rellax it). You can stay away from the mind states and feeling tones if they are too disturbing. You simply lock onto coolness in the nostrils and belly rising and falling, expanding belly touching the shirt (this I find usually is very pleasant). Body really is always good to return back to when stuff gets too heavy emotinaly.

Im saying this as you might feel bad about this sudden transition from full on practice going on and suddenly you are off the hourse so to speak. Its almost like a "cultural shock" some people have when moving countries (Ive moved alot) or when people get fired from a job they liked. Transition can be felt as loss. 

I think breathing relaxation (calm abiding) is a very good practice and can lead the one practicing all the way. Im know personally it can lead all the way to EQ (4th Jhana) and if you dont freak out (like I did) when you totally loose the breathing (as if you are not breathing at all) then you might even continue further. Back then I didnt know about this happening in 4th Jhana (breathing stops, but its harmless, no reason to panic, as I did emoticon  )

So, once again, I think its a great practice, this breath relaxation and there is no need for you to feel as if you are downgrading your practice. Tibetans dont offer Shamatha (calm-abiding relaxation) without a good reason emoticon 

In case you feel too overwhelmed with this illness then maybe talking to a therapist can help. Talking about our stuff always helps.

I really wish you all the best Sam! 
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I don't know when I meditated last. With the symptoms and diagnosis of Parkinsons and dealing with the tremors and involutary body movement, I sank into despair and stopped meditating. I had to let go of Abre for financial reasons. I just sat around feeling how terrible everythinng was. Today, I decided to try to meditate just for a half hour which I did. I don't know if I can sustain a regular practice at this point. I' m down to my last $1000 and don't even know how I'll live and buy food.

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I did it! I was energetic so the noting was consistent and fast.
BODY I had to deal with the Parkinsons tremors and involuntary body movements. I was somewhat restless. I had fullness, heavingness, andd pressure from taking a medicine all day. I noticed some sharp pains in the muscle which connects the underarm to the chest. I had foot pain, runny nose, headache also. SOUND I noticed a motorcycle and some birds THOUGHTS Worry thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS I had strong emotions of fear, anxiety and worry

GENERAL FEELING At least I did it. I don't know if I'm back, I will try.
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So good to see you back Sam emoticon emoticon emoticon show must go on emoticon You did it! 

I agree, sitting around and just feeling how everything is terrible is certainly not helping at all emoticon We need to learn to disembed from such thinking patterns and meditation sure can do that as well as bring some tranquility into our life. 

How was that Smiling Buddha meditation for you? Any good? Can you think of doing it again or is it too artificial feeling? Im asking as it would be good to have one short sit that is based on one pointed calming meditation and then do the noting later maybe or before, as it suits you. 

You could aslo try and create an object for one pointed part of your noting meditation. I do open eyes focus on a kasina object (can be anything and matters little if its just a dirt spot on the wall or floor infront of you). If this is not good for your eyes then maybe holding something between your fingers, an object of your choosing. This would be your one pointed object that you return to very often during noting. Ingram I think used raise and fall of the abdomen as the primary one pointed object in his sittings and noting all other stuff but returning to it again and again. It doesnt work that well for me hence I use eye focus on an object and of course my own voice (in noting aloud) as well as the in ear frequency when it pops up (the nada sound). 

Having this one pointed object in your noting practice can introduce tranquility, calm and of course concentration (absorption joy, rapture, bliss and open spacious awareness).  Try and think what would be the best one pointed object for you. Chris Marti prefers the preassure of his buttocks against the cushion apparently emoticon 

Great to see you again! 
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So good to see you back Sam emoticonemoticonemoticon show must go on emoticon You did it! 

I agree, sitting around and just feeling how everything is terrible is certainly not helping at all emoticon We need to learn to disembed from such thinking patterns and meditation sure can do that as well as bring some tranquility into our life. 

How was that Smiling Buddha meditation for you? Any good? Can you think of doing it again or is it too artificial feeling? Im asking as it would be good to have one short sit that is based on one pointed calming meditation and then do the noting later maybe or before, as it suits you. 

You could aslo try and create an object for one pointed part of your noting meditation. I do open eyes focus on a kasina object (can be anything and matters little if its just a dirt spot on the wall or floor infront of you). If this is not good for your eyes then maybe holding something between your fingers, an object of your choosing. This would be your one pointed object that you return to very often during noting. Ingram I think used raise and fall of the abdomen as the primary one pointed object in his sittings and noting all other stuff but returning to it again and again. It doesnt work that well for me hence I use eye focus on an object and of course my own voice (in noting aloud) as well as the in ear frequency when it pops up (the nada sound). 

Having this one pointed object in your noting practice can introduce tranquility, calm and of course concentration (absorption joy, rapture, bliss and open spacious awareness).  Try and think what would be the best one pointed object for you. Chris Marti prefers the preassure of his buttocks against the cushion apparently emoticon 

Great to see you again! 

Thanks for the welcome back and suggestions. I think I am just tryiing to keep it simple right now, seeing if I can even do do it on a regular basis. The Smiling Buddha Relaxation meditation is the one Abre left me to deal with the Parkinsons but it has a lot of deep breathing, which causes gas which causes bathroom trips!
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I did it again! I must be back! Actually I wasn't going to as Sunday is my American Football day where I watch football all day which I did for most of the day. This sit, I went from  states of anxiety, restlessness all the way through  to calm and relaxation.

BODY I had some tremors in the begining along with a very tight neck. I had head abdomen and stomach muscle pain. I had head pain in the right temple of my skull but then WHOA! I got a really sharp pain at the bottom back of the skull that made me jump. I also had itching. SOUND I heard the AC and then everything went still. I experrienced a few minutes of stillness. I also heard a small plane, birds, and crickets THOUGHTS future planning thoughts, future worry thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughrs EMOTIONS Starting with this sense of anxiety and fear. By the end, I was feeling some relaxation and calm. I then did some of Abre's Inner Buddha Smile to enhance the stillness I felt in my mind.

GENERAL FEELINGS I am enjoing the relaxed calmess and stillness 
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Hi Sam,
Glad to see you back.
May you be well, and practice well emoticon
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I'm sad to hear of the difficulties you are going through, Sam. I'm also glad to see you are back practicing. I hope that the problems get better soon and that your practice continues well.
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Thank you for the welcome backs Papa Che, Siavash, and Martin

30 Min PM Noting Sit

A pretty good sit somewhat like yesterday but with more back pain and less relaxation. BODY I still had my now customary tremors and trembling. I had strong back pain alsong with shoulder tightness and tension. The neck also was stiff and tight. I had abdominal pressure, arms sore and tender, foot paian, eye pain. SOUND There was a lot of sound that I head which included a barking dog, AC, the lawn management equipment and voices in the hallway VISUAL FIELD I saw a purplish circle that turned white THOUGHTS future planning thoughts, future worry thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS First some fear but eventually turning into relaxation and calm through the Inner Smile

GENERAL FEELINGS Very good sit with little but of calm and relaxation
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Sam I sent you a message.
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Sorry folks I haven't been online since Monday. Its been a combination of my continuing medical issues and my disinegrating financial situation. It looks I am going to lose my beloved Black Mustang because I can't pay for it

30 min AM Noting Sit

This didn't go well from the start. It seemed like I was out of practice or my mind "was not not in the game." Noting was slow and sparadic as I battled tiredness, dullness, and boredon. BODY I had fullness, heavingness, and pressure at the start. I had tightness and tension in the lower back. I  had watery eyes which got my nose running.I had a stiff and tight neck and heaviness in the arms SOUND Once again, the very noisy upstairs lady upstairs was doing nonstop loud laundry! THOUGHTS I had future planning thoughts, fear thoughts, logging thoughts and DhO thoughts EMOTIONS fear, anxiety, dullness, tiredness, boredom 

OVERALL Got to get back in the swing of things



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Complete opposite of my earlier sit! With the benefit of coffee, I was able to be really energetic and note at a much quicker rate and thus more things. I was even able to generate just a little calm in the mind too.

BODY Abdominal muscle pian, foot pain, muscle jerks, usual tremors and trembling, underarm pain, itching in the back, sharp transient pains across upper back, urinary tension, movingfeet, neck stiff and tight, coolness, slight headache on top SOUND Indoor AC, Fridge, Outdoor AC VISUAL FIELD Concentric white circles THOUGHTS Few and far between but future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS Calm

OVERALL Feel like I'm back in the swing of things
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This one was dominated by the sounds of my own washing machine because I wanted to get it in before it got too late. After the washing machine finished, I was able to access some stillness and calm. 

BODY Back pain, abdominal pressure, fullness, foot pain, tremors, slight headache, underarm pain, abdominal muscle pain, right hand numbness, lower back tension and tightness, heavingness in arms SOUND washer obviously but some inside and outside AC THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS stillness, calm

OVERALL Nice sit
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It's so damn cold! Temp is coldest since last May and they haven't changed back my apartment to heat yet. The other distinquishing feature of this sit is that I was tired and dull and bored. Still don't have any energy in the day without coffee.

BODY numbness in my hands, tremors, trembling, abdominal pressure, stomach discomfort, neck tightness, foot pain, heavy arms, eye pain and watering, slight headache SOUND dogs barking, women upstairs walking THOUGHTS future planning, future worry, logging, and DhO

OVERALL Acceptable
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How are you Sam?
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Papa Che Dusko:
How are you Sam?

I am not good. In addition to my Atypical Parkinson's, I have been having IBS during the day even though I don't drink any coffee and its pretty hard to meditate when you have to go to bathroom all the time. I've been having all these medical tests. Also, my Mustang gets re-possed this week. So i haven't had the slightest interest in anything meditation or Buddhist.

I had coffee today for the first time today in over 2 weeks. Maybe I'll be inspired later to practice.
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PM 30 Minute Noting Sit

I did it! First sit in weeks! Can't promise I can hold myself to it with all going on that I described in last post. This sit hada lot of energy and restlessness from the coffee before. I was able to have a high rate of noting (3x/sec). Mindfulness was fairly good because of the Noting not allowing my mind to wander.

BODY usual tremors and trembling, back pain, excitement in the gut (coffee), urinary tension, fingers movement, slight headache, neck tightness and stiffness, pain in left hand and pain in upper left arm THOUGHTS Future planning thoughts, future worry thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoghts SOUND Heater inside as well large outside AC Units EMOTIONS restlessness 

GENERAL FEELINGS A sit in the books!  I'll take it
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Have you considered to have a talking therapy for a while as all what's happening now is very new and hard to take in. I'm sure it will be of benefit. 
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It seems like Sam is having financial problems and may not be able to afford therapy at the moment. Maybe one of the therapists in our community would consider offering him some pro bono sessions ...
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Indeed. We all live in different countries which have different social welfare. I don't know where Sam lives and how this system functions there but in Denmark you basically pay a small sum as participation when you go for therapy (if you get approved by a doctor which is not an issue) and the rest is payed by the government. 
I hope it's like this in any and all countries. 

When people need medical help and psychological support they ought to get it without much money fuss.

That would be great if someone here is a therapist working pro bono! 

All this is only if Sam actually feels like having a talking therapy, of course. 
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Axtually I'm about to have a 30 minute pro-bono therapy session by my own therappist right now.
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Axtually I'm about to have a 30 minute pro-bono therapy session by my own therappist right now.
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Sam Gentile:
Axtually I'm about to have a 30 minute pro-bono therapy session by my own therappist right now.
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After our session, it tuns out meditation is not high on our list of priorities right now.
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Papa Che Dusko:
Sam Gentile:
Axtually I'm about to have a 30 minute pro-bono therapy session by my own therappist right now.
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After our session, it tuns out meditation is not high on our list of priorities right now.

Same here Sam emoticon at the moment Im full on working on spreding 14 cubic meters of gravel infront of our house and helping one neighbour with his concrete tiles infront of his house and from next week Im starting a new job (packaging xmass presents) and after work looking after my little son. Meditation, as in sitting practice, is not getting the high priority right now. When the time is right the practice will rekindle again emoticon 

So glad you found a therapist mate! Your health both mental and physical is important. Good on you Sam! 
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I had a lull in my medical symptoms today so I decided to try a sit and was able to do so. I had plenty of energy and was even restless from a rare earlier coffee. Noting was fast (3x/sec) and consistent (and out loud).

BODY jitterry feet. slight headache starting in the forehead and moing moving all over from there, the ususal tremor/trembling, neck tightness, eye pain, knee pain, brain fog, muscle jerks, cold, urinary tension, gut excitement, fingers moving, shoulders tight and tense, tingling, right hand pain SOUND cars in the rain, car horn, music likely coming from a car THOUGHTS Microsoft .NET 5 Development thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS restless

OVERALL FEELINGS Great to get one in
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Glad the medical issues were a bit better and you got a decent sit in.
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Hello! Its been a long time since I rock and rolled. I realized today that I haven't meditated since Oct 29th and probably lost all my readers! I have been battling my medical issues that keep me off the couch and having lots of medical apontments. I talked to my long distance girlfriend Staci who is is a Trump supporter and I am  Biden supporter. I felt happy so I decided to try to meditate. Today's sit was charcterized by restlessness and some boredom. I remember looking at the look and there was still 13 minutes left and then 8 minutes left. This session seemed to go on forever. 

BODY energetic restless, lots of tremors and trembling (from the Parkinson's), brain fog, aching arms, neck really  stiff and tight. knees aching, slight headache, gut excitement, urinary tension, various fleeting pain sensations in the arms, abdominal muscle tension, muscle jerks, eye pain VISUAL FIELD Bright white circle SOUND I head a motorcycle, car horn, sirens THOUGHTS  Futue planning thoughs, Staci thoughts, boredom thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS restlessness, boredom

OVERALL FEELINGS Great to do one. Will try more.
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emoticon Congrats on Biden and on sitting again! 
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Yay, two days in a row! I even did it with the noise of my washing machine. And I still managed to get a calm, relaxed sit. There was no boredom or restless present.  BODY hair wet, shoulders tight, slight headache, neck tight and stiff, trembling and tremors, foot pain, abdominal pressure, back tightness SOUND washer, mutiple trucks backing up sound, trucks being unloaded THOUGHTS future planning, Microsoft .NET 5 devlopment thougts, logging thoughts, DhO thougts EMOTIONS Calm, Relaxed, Happiness, Joy, Stillness

OVERALL EMOTIONS Near perfect sit
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Glad for your new reports Sam.

Go for .net. You have tons of experience, why not use it. Just open it and start coding!
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Siavash:
Glad for your new reports Sam.

Go for .net. You have tons of experience, why not use it. Just open it and start coding!

Thank you. I have to meditate and report now as my Parkinson's and IBS allow it.

AS for the .NET, I was a Software Engineer for over 30 years and I started with the very first .NET Beta (i ythink it was 1991)  and developed for may years and companies with it. Microsoft has just come out with a "master" .NET where they have united everything and I am starting to learn it!
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Yeah.

It's worth spending time to learn it (Although I don't believe that they can successfully unite everything ;) ).
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Finally got a lull in medical symptoms so I was able to do this. Experiencing the "time dilation" effect, a term I use, because I don't meditate often, it seems like 30 minutes lasts a day. So I was restless and bored.

BODY Fullness, abdominal pressure, usual tremors and trembling, gut excitement, urinary tension, shoulders sore and tense, confusion,  restless feet, neck tight and stiff, arms heavy, right hand numbness, eye pain SOUND I heard very loudly, for most of the 30 minutes multipe police sirens and fire trucks. I also heard birds. THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS restlessness, bordedom

OVERALL: I'm happy these days when I get a sit in
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Good on you Sam! Glad to see you're making the most out of some shitty circumstances. Best wishes to you emoticon
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Good on you Sam! Glad to see you're making the most out of some shitty circumstances. Best wishes to you emoticon

Louis, gross but "shitty" in quite lieratl terms emoticon
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Decided to sit , damn the consquences for the 2nd day. Unlike yesterday, where there was restless and boredom, today I was blown around to many states. I would feel like I had to go to bathroom and I would calm, relaxation and stillness, and then back again.

BODY Feeling cold, abdominal pressure, fullness, tremors and trembling, itching on face from  shaving, eyes wet and in pain, lower back tightness and tension, stomach pain, foot pain, slight headache, neck tight and stiff, sensation in upper left arm SOUND Hot water heater, dog barking THOUGHTS Future planning, worry, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS Worry, relaxation, calm, stillness

OVERALL Two in a row!
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"SOUND Hot water heater, dog barking"

Just wondering; do you get any mind impressions when you hear these sounds? I know there is Comprehanding after the fact of hearing but anything else? Im just being curious emoticon 
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Papa Che Dusko:
"SOUND Hot water heater, dog barking"

Just wondering; do you get any mind impressions when you hear these sounds? I know there is Comprehanding after the fact of hearing but anything else? Im just being curious emoticon 
Do you mean that I see an image in the mind with the sound? Most of the time its just the sound.
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 Yes image impressions of what was heard. In my experience sound/hearing leads to either comprehending certainty about it or comprehanding uncertainty about it (in case of strange sounds) and always leads to some image impression. 

Thank you for sharing mate! emoticon 
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30 min AM Noting Sit

After a talk with my girlfriend Staci and a nice Bulletproof coffee, I got inspired to meditate. I think its impossible to meditate without coffee emoticon So I entered this meditation full of energy, alert, even restless but there was not a lot of boredom. 

BODY Eyes flickering, restless, tremors/trembling, foot pain, abdominal pressure, neck tight and stiff, eyes watering and pain, urinary tension, gut pressure and excitement, headache in forhead, teeth grinding, restless legs VISUAL FIELD A bright white circle was noticed SOUND sirens, fridge, AC, aiirplane EMOTIONS Restless, alert, excitement, some boredom THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, Alex thoughts, noting thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL Good sit
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30 min AM Noting Sit

Felt great during this sit powered by Bulletproof Coffee. Started real hyper-excited, energetic with a high rate of noting. There was later a little boredom which was then nicely replaced by relaxation, calm, and stillness as I found myself repeating a made-up mantra with thoughts, "No future. No past. Just NOW." This kept me coming back.

BODY Restles, high energy, fast noting, energy pulsations in the fingers, various stry aches and pains in the body, tremors/trembling, legs moving, forehead headacche, neck tight and stiff, abdominal pressure, urinary tension, sensations at inside of elbows, swallowing, gut excitement, itching SOUND AC, runn8ing water, upstairs neighbor walking, airplane THOUGHTS Alex thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts V ISUAL FIELD Bright white light

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Relaxed and calm

BTW, Is anyone besides Papa Che reading these? I know I haven't been consistent with my illnesses
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"No future. No past. Just NOW." = Acceptance of what Is emoticon It's a very good reminder that mantra of yours emoticon 
Just This, Just Now is ALL we Ever have. This infinitesmall Thisness that changes forms lightning fast emoticon This is as close to "truth" we can ever get it seems emoticon 

Keep at it mate! emoticon 
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I'm here too mate! keep up the good work emoticon
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30 min PM Noting Sit

A unique thing happened during this sit. I had IBS symptoms during  my sit. I was able to sit with and note with them without getting up. Later I was able to make use of my mantra "No future. No Past. Just Now."

BODY abdominal pressure, IBS symptoms, abdominal area discomfort, forhead sensations, foot pain. tremors/trembling, arms heavy, underarm pain SOUND wind, garbage trucks, airplane THOUGHTS IBS thoghts, Staci thoughts, future planning thoughts, worry thoughts, loggging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Sat despite medical symptoms
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Nice emoticon 

Meditation for the mind is like water for the body. Its just of plain benefit FULL STOP emoticon Need drink water, need awake mind emoticon same-same emoticon 
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30 min AM Noting Sit

Quite a sit. Due to the coffee I started the sit restless, and excited but as I went along things went quiet and I had periods of stillness and developed relaxation, calm, happiness and joy. Then near the end of the sit, Staci called just as I was thinkng of her and I ended up in excitement.

BODY Slight headache at forehead, tight neck, eye pain and watering, abdominal pressure, urinary tension, gut ecitement, tension and tightness in upper shoulders, tremors and trembling, tingling in right hand, swallowing, energy pulsations in hands, lips quivering, arms heavy SOUND airplane, sirens, truck THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, future planning thoughts, Abre thoughts, "No future. No past. Just now." EMOTIONS Restless, energetic, open to life, relaxed, calm, happiness, joy

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Totally happy
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"OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Totally happy"

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30 min AM Noting Sit

This was a very different noting it for me. All the other ties the high frquency of at-loud noting leads to minimal thoughts and mindfulness. Today was very different. I was starting to talk to my girlfriend Staci and then she told me she3 couldn't d our regular coffee hour and talk. During the sit, thoughts of this ovverwhelmed, primarly disapointment and sadness.

BODY Abdominal pressure, gut excitement, urinary tension, neck tight and stiff, slight headache especially in the forhead, nose dripping, eye pain, upper back tension and tightness, knee soreness. heavy arms SOUND cars, aiirplane, trucks THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, Staci disaapointment thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS disapointment, sadness, some boredom

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Good to work with my feelings
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30 min PM Noting Sit #2

This sit was very diffferent from the one earlier today. I did not get overwhelmed by my thooughts because the noting worked and I had mindulness. This is also the first time I have sat twice in in one day in months. A pretty ordinary sit very welcome.

BODY nose dripping unpleasant, headache in forehead, fullness, upper back really tight and tense, abdominal muscle pain, urinary tension, itching/scratching, abdominal pressure, jittery feet, foot pain, eye pain, sensations at right elbow, tingling pleasent, lips dry and pursed SOUND bell, AC, windows rattling very unpleasent, 2 planes THOUGHTS few and far between but some future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Nice ordinary sit

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Ok, I'll admit it. I only meditated today out of desperation, sheer lonliness at spending Thangiving totally by myself. I couldn't even find Staci until she texted in the middle of the sit. Anyway, I'm happy at how much more I have been meditating this week.

BODY Gut excitement, urinary tension, abdominal pressure, sensations on  side of head, brain fog, neck tight and stiff, itching/scratching, upper back pain, sparodic transient sensations in arms, arms heavy, nose congested, foot pai8n, headache in back of the head, legs aching, facial pain, lower left leg throbbing, eye pain, underarm pain, heavy arms, tingling SOUND AC, fridge THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, Heather thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS bored, lonliness

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Good sit on a tough day
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"sheer lonliness at spending Thangiving totally by myself."

Thank you Sam for the gift of sharing the Dhamma emoticon 

I spend Christmas all by my lonesome. This year will be the same. There can be sadness and loneliness to it. 
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30 min AM Noting Sit

I started this one with a big enegy surge noting with a fury. The energy stayed constant. I found myself thinking thoughts of Abre with who I am having a special meeting today with.

BODY Wide awake, noting fast, underarm pain, gut excitement, abdominal pressure, urinary tension, awnsions in ear, nose running, neck tight & stiff, forehead pain, itching/scratching, foot pain, leg sensations, intense excitement and fast n9oting in the fingers, legs movement, noticing sensations of socks on the skin of my feet, headache feeling over left eye -> gone SOUNDS Heater, running water THOUGHTS Future planning, Abre, logging, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Looking forward to seeing Abre!
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I meditated while I was doing noisy wash and it was fine. When the wash cycle finished, I even got some calm, relaxtion and stillness. I am celebrating because I meditated every day this week which I haven't done in a long time. I got some extra support from Abre yesterday who encouraged me to add a second sit daily. 

BODY Wet hair from shower, aching in lower back, slight headache, thigh pain, abdominal presure, foot pain, neck tight and stiff, achy arms, forehead pain, tremors/trembling, shoulders tight and tense, middle back pain, feet movement SOUND washing machine, neighbor's washing machine, AC, truck backing up THOUGHTS far and few betwen but some future planning thoughts, Abre thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thougts EMOTIONS Some calm, relaxtion, stillness

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Good sit
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30 min AM Noting Sit

Abre suggested the application of #2 Mindfulness of Feelings from the Four Foundations of Mindfulness by noting Feeling Tone along with my noting. Nowhere was that more apparent than during the first 15 minutes where I noted gut excitement intense unpleasent. This was due to the coffee. Interestingly, affter about 16 minutes its like it completly disapeared and became pleasent. So I tried to note pleasent, unpleasent or neutral although I won't always put them in here.

BODY gut excitement intense unpleasent, abdominal pressure unpleasent, urinary tension unpleasent, slight headache, neck tight & stiff, various body aches random, cold, foot sensations on floor, nose dripping, eyes dry, fast sensations in fingers, tremors/trembling, forehead pain, restless feet, underarm pain SOUND rain, AC, running water, birds, walking upstairs THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, Abre thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Adding the feeling tone gives a more complete picture of whats going on
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30 min PM Noting Sit #2

I am reintroducing a second sit per Abre. I found myself restless and sometimes bored.

BODY Tremors/Trembling unpleasent, Uninary tension unpleasent, restless, fast sensations in fingers, slight headaches all over my head, various sensations in legs, restless feet, itching, dry eyes, wrist discomfort, underarm pain, knees aching, arms heavy, heat in  left wrist -> gone, jittery, intense itching at the bottom of left side of nose, desire SOUND Strong winds, AC THOUGHTS Future planning thoughts, Abre thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS Restless, Boredom, Desire

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS First Sit #2 in over a month
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30 min AM Noting Sit

Fully energized by cofee for this one so I was rapidly picking up and noting sensations at 3x rate. Didn't really get bored, just flowed in this vortex of sensations.

BODY Gut excitement unpleasent, urinary tension unpleasent, abdominal pressure unpleasent, eyes dry, various transitory sensations in head neutral, cold, sore hands, quick sensations moving along fingers, feeling feet on floor, facial pain, tremors/trembling, underarm pain unpleasent, pinpick sensations (2) SOUND wash, wind, truck door, dog barking THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS A real breakthrough in noting minute sensations
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30 minute PM Noting Sit #2

Whatever breakthru I had in session #1 today is still there. I am sensing and noting much more minute, deeper sensations that I wasn't aware of before. Entering this world has exploded my noting session as I barely keep up anymore. There are just so many of them.

BODY feet tension, itch on my right cheek -> gone, eye pain, itching on top of my head, sensations in legs, various transient sensations in arms, sensations at right lower eyelid, tremors/trembling, sensations on right side of head -> gone, throbbing at bottom of right foot -> gone, sensation of fabric touching the skin SOUND just heater THOUGHTS few and far between as I kept up with new mindfulness Future planning thoughts, Logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS A whole new world!
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Really proud of you buddy! I am glad to see that noting is going well and you are staying consistent. Keep up this solid work brother!! emoticon Best of wishes to you 
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Louis Joel:
Really proud of you buddy! I am glad to see that noting is going well and you are staying consistent. Keep up this solid work brother!! emoticon Best of wishes to you 
Louis, thanks so much! We are inspiring each other
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30 min Noting Sit AM 

This breakthru that I wrote about yesterday continued today. I have been opened to a whole new level of deeply feeling and noting very subtle, very transient sensations that I missed for years before. I don't know how to explain it. It's like a deeper layer, stuff i just couldn't detect before. Of course, this has resulted in an explosion in my noting so I go up to like 5x and then can't keep up for a little bit. As I found today, it requires a bit more mindfulness work to keep this level going.

BODY Cold, senstations on right side of head -> gone, eye pain, sensations in knees, sensations at left side of waist, gut excitement,  urinary tension, abdominal pressure, neck stiff and tight, forehead pain, node dripping, finger sensations cycling rapidly, sensation in right lower eyelid, sensation inside left ear SOUND Heater, construction people drilling unpleasent, car horns unpleasent THOUGHTS few and far between Logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Living the dream
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30 min PM Noting Sit #2

This inreased level of sensing and noting at this deeper level continues. For instance, I detected something that is really hard to explain. It was like a spike, a spec, of cold coming from inside the body manifesting in a split second, so fast I almost missed it. What was that? So again, I can only write a mere fraction of what I was noting  as it just was too much.

BODY pain over eyes, sensations at back of the neck, sensations in right foot, right foot fluttering, left foot movement, left ankle pain, sensations in left calf, fast sensations among fingers, tremors/trembling, aching in forearms SOUND fire truck, music outside, dog barking, running water THOUGHTS The level of mindfulness was so high I swear I had less than 10 thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Let the good times roll
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"What was that?"

This was "questioning-curiosity". The cold thing have no clue bro emoticon But you ARE riding that buck now! Yippee ki-yay! emoticon 
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30 min AM Noting Sit #1

This deeper enhanced abillity to percieve more subtle sensations continues. I've gotten Abre involved with it who thinks it may be a profound shift. Today, agin, I was picking up things that I never could before and this log can only reflect some of them.

BODY  Nose dripping, Gut excitement intense unpleasent, urinary tension, tiny cold spot in bottom of left foot, sensations in left eye lid, rapid sensations among fingers, tense spot at back of neck, aching in right shoulder, left elbow sensation -> gone, pinpricks in right arm, sensations in left shin, sensations in left foot, tremors/trembling, left underarm pain SOUND construction noises, birds, airplanes THOUGHTS few and far between

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Happy at the path this has taken
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I am glad that things are going well for you Sam! Do you note with eyes closed? 
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Louis Joel:
I am glad that things are going well for you Sam! Do you note with eyes closed? 

Thank you! Yes, always with my eyes closed and out loud.
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30 minute PM Noting Sit #2

This enhanced sensivity to sensations at a deep level continues.

BODY Cold, nose dripping, tightness in left part of the neck, sensations in right hand, cold "spot" in left foot, sensations in upper back, sensations in right knee, sensations in left elbow, sensations in left foot, tremors/trembling, sensations in palm of left hand, restless feet, itching at right side of nose, throbbing in right nostril SOUND heat, running water, airplane THOUGHTS Strangely enough, my only real thoughts were about getting a Popeye's Chicken Sandwhich which of course turned into desire

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS In a good place
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30 minutes AM Noting Sit #1

The deeper ability to detect subtle sensations continues.

BODY Tension in back of the neck, gut excitement intense at times, forehead sensations, tightness in upper back, sensations in right eyebrow, nose dripping, left underarm pain, facial pain, sensation in left ankle, sensation in right knee, sensations in right ear, sensation on right side of nostril, tremors/trembling, rapid finger sensations, sensations in both feet, transient numbness in right fingers, restless feet SOUND heater, wind, rain, birds, water running THOUGHTS few and far between

OVERALL IMPRESSION Glad this is coninuing
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30 min PM Noting Sit #2

Deeper lever of sensing continues.

BODY left underarm pain, sensations left nostril, lower back pain. throbbing in left knee, sensations in right lower lower eyelid, gut excitement, tears in eyes, slight throbbing behind right ear, sensation in left knee, sensations right eyebrow, tremors/trembling, sensations in right foot, throbbing in left knee, sensations in left ankle, tightness in ankle, sensations in left foot, sensations in fingers SOUND loud persistent sirens on multiple firetrucks THOUGHTS thoughts of watching Casino with Robert DeNiro after this 

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Good sits continue
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30 min AM Noting Sit #1

The enhanced sensing and noting abilities from last week were still there but somewhat reduced. The mindfulness was not as strong and thoughts leapt in.

BODY Gut excitement sometimes intense, urinary tension, Dripping nose, wetness in eyes, tension in right side of the neck, sensation s in  left shin, slight headache, sensations in left kneee, sensations in left foot, sensations in right middle back, aching in right collarbone, aching in lower back, sensations in right elbow, left shin pain, rapid finger sensations, sensations in forearms, sensations in right thumb, left foot pain, sensations in left shoulders, tremors/ trembling THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, worry thoughts about my gut, future plannning thoughts, Rebecca thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Still noting well but need to  watch mindfulness
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30 min PM Noting Sit #2

The enhanced sensitity to sensations and flood of deep sensations that I have been enjoying for over a week now has pretty much waned. I had to use my stir phrase "noting" to stir up sensations. This meant I had to work harder at manual mindfulness but I felt myself getting increasingly fustrated as the usual flood wasn't there and thoughts/desires of ordering a Popeye's Spicy Chicken Sandwhich took over my mind.

BODY sensations in fingers, tightness on back of neck, itch on nose, restless right foot, soreness left back shoulder, sensations in left foot, itching at scalp of head, sensations in left shin, sensations in fingers of left hand, sensations at left elbow, tremors/trembling, forehead pain, tightness in back of neck, eye pain, coldness in feet, throbbing in left knee, sensations in upper left eyelid SOUND Something that sounded like a TV from down the hall, heat, airplane -> gone THOUGHTS Fustration, Future planning thoughts, Popeye's thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Everything is impermenant
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30 min AM Noting Sit #1

Big change from last night with that deeper sense of picking up minute, transient sensations back again. There were several times where I noted "what is that" when I would get an undescribeable tiny transient sensation in the body.

BODY Forehead pain, back of neck tightness, left foot sensations, right bottom eyelid sensations, left collarbone aching, tremors/trembling, tight calf muscles, back of the neck tightness, left knee sensations, throbbing in right knee, heavingness in forearms, gut excitement, weird transient sensations in left thigh, transient twinge in upper right back, nose dripping, aching in right hand, tense sensations in back SOUND heater, neighbor walking upstairs THOUGHTS Staci thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Good sit
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30 Minutes PM Noting Sit #2

A bit different this time. I had Gut Excitement which led to some IBS issues which caused some fear, anxiety, and worry. The was still pretty good. 

BODY sharp tingle on lower tip of left ear, sensations at left wrist, forehead pain, left collerbone sensations, right knee sensations, abdominal muscle pain, facial pain, tension at back of the neck, arms heavy, restless feet, sensations in right lower back, abdominal pressure, gut excitement, sensation in right lower eyelid, left shin pain, spot of tension in upper right forehead, left foot pain, sensations in fingers, tremors/trembling VISUAL FIELD (eyes closed) saw an image like a whale pass "over" me SOUND Heater, music in the distance THOUGHTS Future planning thoughts, worry thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS Worry, fear anxiety

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS sat well with some discomfort

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30 min AM Noting Sit #1

The enhanced, deeper ability was not present today. Noting was slowed down to 1x/sec and I even had to use the "noticing" phrase to maintain continity and stir up sensations. Mindfulness suffered and there were more than the usual number of thoughts.

BODY Gut excitement, pain in right side, tension in back of the neck, sensations in right forarm, forehead pain, sensations inside left ear, lower back tension, transient pain in right forarm, sensations in right foot, pinprick on left elbow, sensations in collarbone, left shin pain, sensations in upper left shoulder, throbbing on right side of head -> gone, nose dripping, stinging sensation at bottom of left eye, sensations in fingers, jittery feet, aching in left shoulder, itching at top right eyelid SOUND heat, running water, sirens -> gone, then they started up again -> gone THOUGHTS Future planning thoughts, doctor thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

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30 min PM Noting Sit #2

I struggled in this one. That deeper, innate sense is gone. Once again, I had to use Abre's phrase "noticing" to keep the steady rythm of noting and to prod myself to pick up things. There was also some boredom.

BODY nose dripping, various transient headache sensations all around head, left foot sensations, neck tightness, right foot sensations, eyes wet, sensations in forearm, sensations in fingers, brain fog, sensations in top of head, sensations in forehead, itching on nose, sensations in right eyebrow, heavingness in shoulders, urinary tension, tremors/trembling, sensations in fingers, facial sensations SOUND lots of construction sounds in next apartment incluing ladder movements, talking THOUGHTS Future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts
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30 Minute AM Noting Sit #1

Pretty much the same as last night's. That deeper sense is gone. Again, I had Abre's phrase of "Noticing" to keep up the pace of noting and to prompt myself to look. Its not that I'm not noting. Its that its not as deep and fast as it was coming. Its more like 1x/sec.

BODY aching in eyebrows, facial pain, sensations in right foot, sensations in right knee, transient pain at right elbow, various itches everywhere, tears, fullness, gut excitement, neck tight and stiff, middle back tension, left foot sensations, nose dripping,  tingle in finger of right hand, forehead pain, right upper shoulder tenderness, left shin pain, finger sensations, itching in beard, transient hot "spot" at right elbow SOUND neighbor walking upstairs THOUGHTS future planning thoughts, worry about pharmacy delivery, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts
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30 min PM Noting Sit #2

Pretty much the same as the earlier one today. Slow but consistent noting.

BODY Nose dripping, itching back of head, forehead sensations, right foot sensations, neck tight and stiff, gut excitement, sharp transient pinprick at right elbow, left knee pain, abdominal muscle pain, sensations in lower back, sensations in eyebrows, transient numbness side of right hand, tension in lower left leg, sensations in right waist, facial pain, sensations in left cheek, sensations in fingers, transient throbbing just above right elbow SOUND running water, AC, nerighbor walking THOUGHTS future planning thoughts
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30 min AM Noting Sit

With the freshly drunk coffee, I thought I would have the energy to increase my noting speed beyond the 1x/sec lately. I did get bursts but I got these moments of "noting freeze" where I would draw a complete blank for a few seconds. Some of it was thinking, some was just fog.

BODY Tightness and stiffness in back of neck, pain in the forehead, gut excitement, right foot sensations, left foot sensations, various transient micro headache sensations, right shoulder strain, sensations in left elbow, nose dripping, itching, neck very tight and stiff, sensations that felt like ants crawliing in both palms, eyes wet, pain in upper back, sensation of fabric touching skin, sensations in fingers, transient throbbing in left foot, jaw pain, tremors/trembling, right ear pressure SOUND AC Thoughts Abre thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts.
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Good stuff man! Keep it coming emoticon
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30 minute AM Noting Sit

My noting wasn't quite fast enough and my Mindfulness not quite deep enough because a lot of thoughts got through which were also noted. I'm also having slight doubts of the structure of my practice that I have called Abre for a session this week.

BODY Pain in my eyebrows, sensations in right elbow, sensations in right foot, soreness in left underarm, heavingness in forarms, tears, nose dripping, slight  headache in various parts of the head, sensations in upper right shoulders, gut excitement, urinary tension, tremors/trembling, tight knot in upper back, restless feet, right shin pain SOUND, birds, gurgling from stomach that sounded like an alien!, car THOUGHTS future planning thoughts, Abre thoughts, practice thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

For Abre: I have noticed that every sit is now recording virtually the same sensations and that's what my practice is. Does it make sense to notice these body sensations over and over and continue that as my noting practice? What direction should I go in?
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Hibiscus Kid:
Hey Sam, 

I noticed a few things based on your descriptions that I'd like to maybe point out:

- When you went through that week of heightened sensitivity, you reported that few to no thoughts would arise during your sittings. In my experience, there are often very subtle and fleeting mental images or narrative thoughts that bubble up as a result of a stimulus. For instance, if you hear a dog barking, does anything arise in your mind's eye? If you feel an itch somewhere on your body, does anything arise in your mind's eye (something that might suggest location in space)? These sorts of mental phenomena arise constantly and they reenforce a sense of self, but as they are often in the background, it can be hard to notice in the beginning. 

- Also notice the general attitude that you're having towards the content of your sits. It sounds like there is some doubt, insecurity, boredom, and impatience, etc. It's very normal to experience these and a portion of my practice is trying to notice these states too. There's the fine-grained perspective that sees subtle sensations, but there is also the meta-perspective that views the overall attitude or reaction to these as well. 

-Remember, there are Four Foundations of Mindfulness and there are different ways to structure a session so that we can bring mindful awareness to these categories of phenomena and strengthen our weak points. A great set of instructions on how to do this has been written up by our very own shargrol. Check out this post compilation and go to "Shargrol's Structured Noting Practice Sample" under the 'Noting' section.

-Other ideas for making practice fresh: if you're sitting twice a day, maybe dedicate one practice to shamatha/concentration work. Learning to relax and center on the breath will pay off in your vipassana sessions and it makes sitting more enjoyable in general.
Alternatively, try practicing Metta or the Brahmaviharas on the cusion or throughout your day.
Off cushion practice is also invaluable and this can be done via noting, light breath awareness, open awareness, Tibetan Realms practice (seeing the mind's orientation), 5 Elements practice (seeing the mind's reactivity), etc. Experiment and see what helps you to be more present and equanimous during your day while also continuing to practice your formal sitting meditation.

Hopefully something listed above helps spurr some investigation! Good luck!
Hi my friend,

Very interesting. 
"When you went through that week of heightened sensitivity, you reported that few to no thoughts would arise during your sittings. In my experience, there are often very subtle and fleeting mental images or narrative thoughts that bubble up as a result of a stimulus. For instance, if you hear a dog barking, does anything arise in your mind's eye? 

Boy, that's an interesting question. When I was experiencing of heightened sensitivity, it seemed like there was "no time" to have thoughts. I was absorbed in the flood of sensations and inreased mindfulness. But maybe I should look these very subtle and narative thoughts that result from the stimulus.

Also notice the general attitude that you're having towards the content of your sits. It sounds like there is some doubt, insecurity, boredom, and impatience, etc. It's very normal to experience these and a portion of my practice is trying to notice these states too. There's the fine-grained perspective that sees subtle sensations, but there is also the meta-perspective that views the overall attitude or reaction to these as well.

Hmm, other than thiis morning, I didn't think I was reflecting doubt, insecurity, boredom and impatience. During thw week of heightened sensativity, I was feeling high as a kite every day. It's just now, that I dought the constant noting of virtually the same body sensations and if this should be the general path for noting.


Alternatively, try practicing Metta or the Brahmaviharas on the cusion or throughout your day.
Off cushion practice is also invaluable and this can be done via noting, light breath awareness, open awareness, Tibetan Realms practice (seeing the mind's orientation), 5 Elements practice (seeing the mind's reactivity), etc. Experiment and see what helps you to be more present and equanimous during your day while also continuing to practice your formal sitting meditation.


Good ideas. Thats why  I'm also checking in with Abre for her ideas for what possibilies/what direction my path should take me now.
Thanks!
Sam Gentile, modified 1 Year ago at 12/15/20 12:47 PM
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30 min AM Noting Sit

I would say that this sit was characterized by total awakeness, excitement, and energetic, as well as being curious as to what was happening. Good environment.

BODY Gut excitement, urinary tension, fullness, eyes tearing, various transient headaches in various parts of the head, neck tight and stiff, left foot pain, shoulders heavy, rapid sensations in forehead, abdominal muscle pain, sensations in left elbow, nose dripping, restless feet, itching, rapid finger sensations, sensations in right cheek, neck tight and stiff, tremors/trembling SOUND The star of the show as the constant gurling I heard that sounded like a pack of aliens, car horns THOUGHTS Future planning thoughts, Abre thoughts, Logging thoughts, DhO thoughts

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS Couldn't ask for much more in a session 
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30 min PM Noting Sit #2

The first thing I noticed was a considerable drop in energy, excitement from that eneregtic sit earlier today. I barely wanted to do it and felt some boredom. 

BODY Abdominal muscle pain, slight throbbing back of the head, forehead sensations, sensations of coldness in right hand,sensations in eye brows, gut excitement, various transient headaches, nose dripping, left foot sensations, back of the neck tight and stiff, sensations inside right ear, sensations in collarbone, tremors/trembling, sensations in forearms, left shin pain, rapid finger sensations, throbbing in right thigh SOUND neighbor sneezing, people moving, car horns THOUGHTS Abre thoughts, future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts
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30 minute AM Noting Sit

We're in the middle of of a blizzard up to 20 inches right now emoticon

I decided to try things without coffee and boy did that affect my noting. I felt sleepy, tired, lack of energy and I struggled to note. At a lot of times I was using Abre's "Noticing" to fill the gap rather than directly percieving a sensation. 

BODY Cold, itching, nose itching, sensations in right foot, transient headaches, roughness on face from shaving, sensations in right foot, tremors/trembling, neck tight and stiff, right knee pain, forehead sensations, mid back pain, facial pain, sensations in right forarm, tremors/trembling, left shin pain, nose dripping, shoulders heavy, aabdominal tightness, left knee pain, sensations in fingers SOUND just sound of heater THOUGHTS lots unfournately Abre thoughts (we are meeting today), future planning thoughts, logging thoughts, DhO thoughts EMOTIONS tiredness, sleepiness, lethargic 
Sam Gentile, modified 1 Year ago at 12/17/20 1:44 PM
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Didn't have time to meditate today as I had to get a COVID test and do other preparations for surgery on Monday but I wanted to convey a very important clarification on my practice from Abre. I had questions about the futility of my logs pretty much expressing the same bodily sensations each sit. It turns out I was right. Abre said it was not important to log each bodily sensation but but how the meditation unfolded: the positive and negative characterstics. Even worse, I had been stopping the noting flow to write down each sensation!

The positive factors are things like Mindfulness, Motivation, Relaxation, Concentration, Calm/Quite, Letting Go, Energy, Alertness, Joy/Wellbeing, Awareness of Body, Right Effort, Quietness of thinking Mind, Equanamiy and Faith/Trust.

The negative things are the Hinderances:
Desire/Wanting, Aversion/Resistance/Rejection, Lethargy/Hevingness/Dullness, Restflessness/Anxiety/Worry, Doubt/Lack  of faith or trust

Instead of logging each itch, which doesn't tell me where my practice is going, these factors describe how each meditation unfolded and what happened. Going to try  it soon.
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"Even worse, I had been stopping the noting flow to write down each sensation!"

I agree emoticon this is certainly of no benefit. If you can best is to laugh about it and turn a new page as you already are doing. We always learn new things about our meditator-self. It's a process. Don't fault yourself and just follow the good old saying "what do we do when we fall off the horse? We climb back on" emoticon The ride goes on and we know better now. I'm sure we will all fall off the horse many times on this journey emoticon 

Best wishes to you Sam! 
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30 min AM Noting Sit 

As I talked about yesterday, after talking with Abre no more long boring list of sensations. Instead I am use a worksheet of hers to be able really access if I making progress in my meditations

Positive Factors
Mindfulness (3/5) I was able to focus on things around me and sensations but I had thoughts of this worksheet. Motivation (5) Very strong motivation driving the whole meditaion Relaxation(1/5) No real relaxation as I was jazzed up by coffee and motivation Concentration (4/5) Conceentratiion was strong but occasionally let up into some of the hinderances (see later). Energy (5/5) and Alertness (5/5) couldn't have been any higher. Totally into it. Joy/Wellbeing (3/5) Did build up some well-being because of how well it was going. Awarness of Body(4/5) here is where the usual noting comes in and I was able to note everything.  Quietness of thinking mind (3/5) Mind wouldn't quiet down as I thought about filling  in this worksheet and how it would be percieved as well as thoughts of future planning.

Obstacles
Desire/Wanting(1/5) not really present Aversion/Resistance/Rejection (3/5) This came up big time as I got bored, averse to keep going Lethargy/Heavingness /Dullness No sleepiness or heavingness.
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30 min PM Noting Sit #2

Much different than earlier sit

Positive Factors
Mindfulness (1/5) I was unable to focus because I was swamped by Melissa thoughts (see later section) Motivation (2) Just getting my PM session in  Relaxation(1/5) Too axious and restless Concentration (2/5) Again swamped by thoughts Energy (2/5) and Alertness (2/5) lower. Joy/Wellbeing (1/5) Not presentt. Awarness of Body(4/5) here is where the usual noting comes in and it suffered with all the thinking and negative factors (see below)  Quietness of thinking mind (1/5) Mind totally consumed by Melissa thoughts. I met her yesterday. Not only is she beautiful but she's got a wicked sense of humor and a total pleasure to be around. I've already fallen head over heels. That's all I could think about.

Obstacles
Desire/Wanting(4/5) wanting Melissa Aversion/Resistance/Rejection (4/5) This came up big time as I got bored, averse to keep going Wanted to stop Lethargy/Heavingness /Dullness No sleepiness or heavingness. Restlessness/Anxiety/Worry (5/5) This was the big one. Big time restlesness and anxiety. 
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I didn't get a chance to practice today because I had a colonscopy. Hope to be back tomorrow.
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Instead of logging each itch, which doesn't tell me where my practice is going, these factors describe how each meditation unfolded and what happened. Going to try  it soon.

Yes! What is the story of each session? Who are the main characters, what did they want, what were the obstacles and what were the successes?