Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition - Discussion
Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
Aduro T, modified 12 Years ago at 7/21/12 1:09 PM
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Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
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I feel that I should find a teacher. I'd be open to working with someone online. I'm currently in the process of looking for a job as a post secondary math teacher, so I would be open to looking for jobs near a teacher that lived in the United States.
I would like to use noting practice to hit stream entry.
I'm not entirely sure what I want out of the Vipassana student/teacher relationship, but my understanding is that having a teacher can be very helpful to progress. I could use help with motivation these days. I've been lazy.
Here are some locations that I have found so far, but I haven't found a place to teach near them.
Ven. U Indeka ( Dhammasariya Paliparagu, B.A. Religion U.S.A. )
619 Bergen Street
Brooklyn, NY 11238
63 Gordons Corner Road
Manalapan, NJ 07726
Tel: (732) 446-1552
Ven. U Silananda (Aggamaha Pandita)
17450 South Callibro Hwy
Half Moon Bay, CA 94014
Tel: (415) 726-7604
Jetavana Vihara Ky Vien Tu Ven. U Khippa Panno
1400 Madison 86 N.W.
Washington DC 20015
Tel: (202) 882-6054
I would like to use noting practice to hit stream entry.
I'm not entirely sure what I want out of the Vipassana student/teacher relationship, but my understanding is that having a teacher can be very helpful to progress. I could use help with motivation these days. I've been lazy.
Here are some locations that I have found so far, but I haven't found a place to teach near them.
Ven. U Indeka ( Dhammasariya Paliparagu, B.A. Religion U.S.A. )
619 Bergen Street
Brooklyn, NY 11238
63 Gordons Corner Road
Manalapan, NJ 07726
Tel: (732) 446-1552
Ven. U Silananda (Aggamaha Pandita)
17450 South Callibro Hwy
Half Moon Bay, CA 94014
Tel: (415) 726-7604
Jetavana Vihara Ky Vien Tu Ven. U Khippa Panno
1400 Madison 86 N.W.
Washington DC 20015
Tel: (202) 882-6054
Aduro T, modified 12 Years ago at 7/21/12 5:46 PM
Created 12 Years ago at 7/21/12 5:46 PM
RE: Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
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Iowa, Oregon, and possibly Florida are my default choices, if anyone knows of a teacher in those locations.
DhO Doh!, modified 11 Years ago at 7/24/13 3:04 PM
Created 11 Years ago at 7/24/13 3:04 PM
RE: Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
Post: 1 Join Date: 7/24/13 Recent PostsAduro T:
I'd be open to working with someone online.
Shinzen young teaches Mahasi-style Vipassana. He is pretty good about replying to emails and also does skype/phone retreats, though I've never tried it. Good luck.
Dream Walker, modified 11 Years ago at 7/24/13 3:08 PM
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RE: Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
Posts: 1770 Join Date: 1/18/12 Recent Postsju ju, modified 11 Years ago at 7/26/13 11:13 AM
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RE: Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
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Buddha said using jhanas correctly were the key to enlightenment. Are you sure you want to arbitrarily avoid them as is the vogue?
Russell , modified 11 Years ago at 7/26/13 12:21 PM
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RE: Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
Posts: 92 Join Date: 10/19/11 Recent Postsju ju:
Buddha said using jhanas correctly were the key to enlightenment. Are you sure you want to arbitrarily avoid them as is the vogue?
He also said do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Robert McLune, modified 11 Years ago at 7/27/13 9:37 PM
Created 11 Years ago at 7/27/13 9:37 PM
RE: Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
Posts: 255 Join Date: 9/8/12 Recent Postsju ju:
Buddha said using jhanas correctly were the key to enlightenment. Are you sure you want to arbitrarily avoid them as is the vogue?
Where did Aduro say he(?) was avoiding jhanas? Is it because he mentioned noting (and does that imply avoiding jhanas)?
Robert McLune, modified 11 Years ago at 7/27/13 9:39 PM
Created 11 Years ago at 7/27/13 9:39 PM
RE: Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
Posts: 255 Join Date: 9/8/12 Recent PostsRussell .:
ju ju:
Buddha said using jhanas correctly were the key to enlightenment.
He also said do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Yeah but he also said not to believe in anything simply because you have heard it. (Ba-dum-tish! )
Daniel M Ingram, modified 11 Years ago at 7/29/13 4:32 AM
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RE: Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
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Defining the term "jhana" further might help.
You see, there are jhanas and there are jhanas, and you can do various things with them, and they can vary a lot in their quality.
The stages of insight are clearly jhanic in some way.
Basically everyone who notes well is going to get into some jhanic states of some kind if they do it well.
Maintaining perfectly "jhana-free" practice is not only basically impossible past some point, but also not as much fun.
Even in the Mahasi tradition, they teach and practice jhanas at the higher levels and are totally expecting jhanic effects of various kinds even in "pure noters".
You see, there are jhanas and there are jhanas, and you can do various things with them, and they can vary a lot in their quality.
The stages of insight are clearly jhanic in some way.
Basically everyone who notes well is going to get into some jhanic states of some kind if they do it well.
Maintaining perfectly "jhana-free" practice is not only basically impossible past some point, but also not as much fun.
Even in the Mahasi tradition, they teach and practice jhanas at the higher levels and are totally expecting jhanic effects of various kinds even in "pure noters".
Fitter Stoke, modified 11 Years ago at 7/30/13 10:31 AM
Created 11 Years ago at 7/30/13 10:31 AM
RE: Looking for a teacher in Vipassana Mahasi Tradition
Posts: 487 Join Date: 1/23/12 Recent PostsDaniel M. Ingram:
Defining the term "jhana" further might help.
You see, there are jhanas and there are jhanas, and you can do various things with them, and they can vary a lot in their quality.
The stages of insight are clearly jhanic in some way.
Basically everyone who notes well is going to get into some jhanic states of some kind if they do it well.
Maintaining perfectly "jhana-free" practice is not only basically impossible past some point, but also not as much fun.
Even in the Mahasi tradition, they teach and practice jhanas at the higher levels and are totally expecting jhanic effects of various kinds even in "pure noters".
You see, there are jhanas and there are jhanas, and you can do various things with them, and they can vary a lot in their quality.
The stages of insight are clearly jhanic in some way.
Basically everyone who notes well is going to get into some jhanic states of some kind if they do it well.
Maintaining perfectly "jhana-free" practice is not only basically impossible past some point, but also not as much fun.
Even in the Mahasi tradition, they teach and practice jhanas at the higher levels and are totally expecting jhanic effects of various kinds even in "pure noters".
This is such a valuable, interesting, and useful point that I would recommend putting it front and center in your revisions to MCTB. It is high time we got past this confusion of "Should I practice jhana, or should I practice vipassana?" Some really excellent scholarship on the Pali suttas (see Bhante Sujato or Thannisaro Bhikkhu) shows that this distinction between jhana and vipassana is a false one, and the Buddha fully expected his students to bring both tranquility and insight to bear on phenomena in every sit. So it would be great if you could help add to the clarification by softening this distinction in the next version of your book.