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Home Self-Retreat
Phineas, modified 8 Years ago at 12/21/15 7:27 AM
Created 8 Years ago at 12/21/15 7:24 AM
Home Self-Retreat
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Hi all
I did a self-retreat at home last week, thought I’d share my experience here for those wishing to do the same. I was surprised that in my research I could not find any self-retreat info on the DO discussion forums (perhaps I am using different terminology). I would be interested in the experiences of others doing similar.
I was originally hoping for an 8-day retreat, but the time off from work only coincided with a 3-day option with my nearest retreat centre. Thus I ended up doing 4 days at home (followed by a day of travel and then a further 3 days at the retreat centre).
BASICS:
- 4 full days, 5 nights (starting the evening before, ending the morning after the last day)
- Schedule was approx 12h of meditation per day, similar to here: http://www.saddhamma.org/html/daily-retreat-schedule.shtml. Waking early was good for minimising noise disruptions.
- This was a Samadhi retreat. I scheduled one guided meditation / day and one dharma talk in the evening. Rob Burbea’s Samadhi retreat was perfect - and I strongly recommend this for anyone wanting to deepen samadhi practice. His mp3s are a free download from dhammaseed.
LOGISTICS:
- Meals: I cooked breakfast each morning. Lunch was a pre-prepared curry, cooked in batch prior to the retreat alongside rice in a rice cooker. Plenty of water.
- Having noise-cancelling headphones (I recommend Bose) or earplugs very helpful as I am in an apartment with neighbours who get noisy at different times. I used these rarely, and perhaps could have done without them.
- The schedule was taped on the wall. Used my smartphone which has a dedicated meditation timer app replete with the appropriate bell noises. No particular advantage here other than it logs total hours sat. Used a separate alarm clock for timing of breaks.
PROS:
- No travel saves dollars and time
- No potential disruptive co-meditators
- Can adjust schedule to suit needs (eg. I prefer a 90min break with showering in the morning and a 60min lunch break).
- Can choose different meditation styles as available online
CONS:
- Availability dependent on access to a free residence, with no one else around
- No collegial atmosphere / Sangha
- Noisy neighbours; less serene than the average retreat centre
- Keeping active timing breaks and sits can be a distraction
- Being in familiar surroundings can be distracting.
OUTCOME:
- All in all, a very productive time. I would not recommend a home self-retreat for anyone who has not done a few retreats at a dedicated centre, as it is good to have a “feel” for the timing and discipline involved, and to have the availability of a teacher for questions early in the piece.
- A good option for anyone short on time / travel but with the convenience of an appropriate residence.
I did a self-retreat at home last week, thought I’d share my experience here for those wishing to do the same. I was surprised that in my research I could not find any self-retreat info on the DO discussion forums (perhaps I am using different terminology). I would be interested in the experiences of others doing similar.
I was originally hoping for an 8-day retreat, but the time off from work only coincided with a 3-day option with my nearest retreat centre. Thus I ended up doing 4 days at home (followed by a day of travel and then a further 3 days at the retreat centre).
BASICS:
- 4 full days, 5 nights (starting the evening before, ending the morning after the last day)
- Schedule was approx 12h of meditation per day, similar to here: http://www.saddhamma.org/html/daily-retreat-schedule.shtml. Waking early was good for minimising noise disruptions.
- This was a Samadhi retreat. I scheduled one guided meditation / day and one dharma talk in the evening. Rob Burbea’s Samadhi retreat was perfect - and I strongly recommend this for anyone wanting to deepen samadhi practice. His mp3s are a free download from dhammaseed.
LOGISTICS:
- Meals: I cooked breakfast each morning. Lunch was a pre-prepared curry, cooked in batch prior to the retreat alongside rice in a rice cooker. Plenty of water.
- Having noise-cancelling headphones (I recommend Bose) or earplugs very helpful as I am in an apartment with neighbours who get noisy at different times. I used these rarely, and perhaps could have done without them.
- The schedule was taped on the wall. Used my smartphone which has a dedicated meditation timer app replete with the appropriate bell noises. No particular advantage here other than it logs total hours sat. Used a separate alarm clock for timing of breaks.
PROS:
- No travel saves dollars and time
- No potential disruptive co-meditators
- Can adjust schedule to suit needs (eg. I prefer a 90min break with showering in the morning and a 60min lunch break).
- Can choose different meditation styles as available online
CONS:
- Availability dependent on access to a free residence, with no one else around
- No collegial atmosphere / Sangha
- Noisy neighbours; less serene than the average retreat centre
- Keeping active timing breaks and sits can be a distraction
- Being in familiar surroundings can be distracting.
OUTCOME:
- All in all, a very productive time. I would not recommend a home self-retreat for anyone who has not done a few retreats at a dedicated centre, as it is good to have a “feel” for the timing and discipline involved, and to have the availability of a teacher for questions early in the piece.
- A good option for anyone short on time / travel but with the convenience of an appropriate residence.
Oochdd, modified 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 2:05 AM
Created 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 2:05 AM
RE: Home Self-Retreat
Posts: 101 Join Date: 12/16/14 Recent Posts
Hej, thanks for the report!
My biggest problem with a home retreat would probably be discipline and distractions. Did you have any problems sticking to the schedule?
My biggest problem with a home retreat would probably be discipline and distractions. Did you have any problems sticking to the schedule?
Phineas, modified 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 6:04 AM
Created 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 6:04 AM
RE: Home Self-Retreat
Posts: 9 Join Date: 11/6/15 Recent PostsOochdd:
Hej, thanks for the report!
My biggest problem with a home retreat would probably be discipline and distractions. Did you have any problems sticking to the schedule?
My biggest problem with a home retreat would probably be discipline and distractions. Did you have any problems sticking to the schedule?
No problems with the schedule, although I was flexible with the timetable by 1h. This meant if I had good momentum in a given sit, I could delay a meal break and press on with the practice. I think my discipline would really be tested for a longer self-retreat, and for that I would store away more personal belongings and generally make the apartment as bland as possible prior to starting. As far as this rather short retreat went, I didn't even notice books on the shelves / guitar in the corner etc. until I was finished the next day. I remember the brightly coloured apps on the iPhone (in flight mode of course) being tempting for a flicker of a moment on one occasion, so for a longer self-retreat I might change this to a standalone stopwatch.
tom moylan, modified 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 3:39 AM
Created 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 3:39 AM
RE: Home Self-Retreat
Posts: 896 Join Date: 3/7/11 Recent Posts
hey phineas,
excellent. i have posted a couple of times about self-retreats and am a big fan for all of the reasons you mention in your 'pro' list.
i have a little house in a remote place which requires no preparation. i just shut off the satellit feed for the duration to minimize temptation. i too have used dharma talks from dharmaseed as an evening pep talk but the last two self-retreats i have done were completely free of any conceptual diversions.
the list of reminders on the wall / fridge whatever is a good one and some basic suggestions and other great tips can be gleaned from Tarin Greco's post 'A slacker's guide...'.
food prep in advance is a great thing and one can minimize the impact / disturbance with a bit of foresight and planning.
a timer is good as is an alternating walking / sitting shedule for vipassana whereas for samadhi i'm not sure how i would approach it. i've never done a strict concentration retreat. hmmm. food for thought.
breaking your retreat up in the middle to travel must have been a bit disruptive no? this i would try to avoid.
what were your experiences and results? under 'outcome' you have some suggestions but did you have any breakthrough experiences or insights?
whirled peas
tom
excellent. i have posted a couple of times about self-retreats and am a big fan for all of the reasons you mention in your 'pro' list.
i have a little house in a remote place which requires no preparation. i just shut off the satellit feed for the duration to minimize temptation. i too have used dharma talks from dharmaseed as an evening pep talk but the last two self-retreats i have done were completely free of any conceptual diversions.
the list of reminders on the wall / fridge whatever is a good one and some basic suggestions and other great tips can be gleaned from Tarin Greco's post 'A slacker's guide...'.
food prep in advance is a great thing and one can minimize the impact / disturbance with a bit of foresight and planning.
a timer is good as is an alternating walking / sitting shedule for vipassana whereas for samadhi i'm not sure how i would approach it. i've never done a strict concentration retreat. hmmm. food for thought.
breaking your retreat up in the middle to travel must have been a bit disruptive no? this i would try to avoid.
what were your experiences and results? under 'outcome' you have some suggestions but did you have any breakthrough experiences or insights?
whirled peas
tom
Phineas, modified 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 6:18 AM
Created 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 6:14 AM
RE: Home Self-Retreat
Posts: 9 Join Date: 11/6/15 Recent Poststom moylan:
hey phineas,
excellent. i have posted a couple of times about self-retreats and am a big fan for all of the reasons you mention in your 'pro' list.
i have a little house in a remote place which requires no preparation. i just shut off the satellit feed for the duration to minimize temptation. i too have used dharma talks from dharmaseed as an evening pep talk but the last two self-retreats i have done were completely free of any conceptual diversions.
the list of reminders on the wall / fridge whatever is a good one and some basic suggestions and other great tips can be gleaned from Tarin Greco's post 'A slacker's guide...'.
food prep in advance is a great thing and one can minimize the impact / disturbance with a bit of foresight and planning.
a timer is good as is an alternating walking / sitting shedule for vipassana whereas for samadhi i'm not sure how i would approach it. i've never done a strict concentration retreat. hmmm. food for thought.
breaking your retreat up in the middle to travel must have been a bit disruptive no? this i would try to avoid.
what were your experiences and results? under 'outcome' you have some suggestions but did you have any breakthrough experiences or insights?
whirled peas
excellent. i have posted a couple of times about self-retreats and am a big fan for all of the reasons you mention in your 'pro' list.
i have a little house in a remote place which requires no preparation. i just shut off the satellit feed for the duration to minimize temptation. i too have used dharma talks from dharmaseed as an evening pep talk but the last two self-retreats i have done were completely free of any conceptual diversions.
the list of reminders on the wall / fridge whatever is a good one and some basic suggestions and other great tips can be gleaned from Tarin Greco's post 'A slacker's guide...'.
food prep in advance is a great thing and one can minimize the impact / disturbance with a bit of foresight and planning.
a timer is good as is an alternating walking / sitting shedule for vipassana whereas for samadhi i'm not sure how i would approach it. i've never done a strict concentration retreat. hmmm. food for thought.
breaking your retreat up in the middle to travel must have been a bit disruptive no? this i would try to avoid.
what were your experiences and results? under 'outcome' you have some suggestions but did you have any breakthrough experiences or insights?
whirled peas
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Hi Tom | |
Thanks for sharing your experience; that little house sound idyllic :) | |
Yes, the break between the 4-day and 3-day mini-retreats was not ideal, but I didn't want to commit to a full 8 days at home having not done it previously (if the 4 days failed miserably, the 3-day retreat at the | |
centre would allow me to cut some losses). | |
As far as results go, I was working on Samadhi alone, which has been a big sticking point of mine in working with the Goenka technique (have done 20 days of retreat | |
in this style the last 6-8 months). Rob Burbea's teachings were quite different, being from the Thai forest tradition, and I found them useful | |
and incredibly inspiring. Effectively, I had hour sits with only 1-2 interruptions which has been the longest for me (I suspect this is slow | |
progress?), and had more convincing and sustained states of rapture lasting up to 20mins approx, which I believe coincide with the first | |
Jhana, although I'm not certain of this. | |
It was very interesting returning to a Goenka Vipassana mini-retreat with an improved and more | |
nuanced samadhi skillset; I am still very much a beginner as far as Vipassana goes. [/font] |
Stuie Charles Law, modified 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 3:59 AM
Created 8 Years ago at 12/22/15 3:59 AM
RE: Home Self-Retreat
Posts: 94 Join Date: 3/19/15 Recent Posts
Three and a half months, noisey home and street conditions, Achieved High Equanimity, best ever life experience..........Never been the same since.