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Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment

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Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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3/26/16 10:10 PM
Hello, this is my first post on the forum

I remember seeing some writing, post or blog or something, by Kenneth Folk, where he described different stages of awakening, like 7 or 8 of them. I can't seem to find it anymore, I'd appreciate if someone could be able to link it to me.

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3/26/16 10:27 PM as a reply to Art.
Art:
Hello, this is my first post on the forum

I remember seeing some writing, post or blog or something, by Kenneth Folk, where he described different stages of awakening, like 7 or 8 of them. I can't seem to find it anymore, I'd appreciate if someone could be able to link it to me.
http://web.archive.org/web/20130116164653/http://kennethfolkdharma.wetpaint.com/page/A+9+Stage+Map+of+Developmental+Enlightenment

There you go
~D

RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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3/27/16 6:45 AM as a reply to Dream Walker.
Great! That was fast. Thank you.

RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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3/27/16 8:31 AM as a reply to Dream Walker.
Dream Walker:



There you go
~D


The additional stages look a bit... relative to me. Is anyone else using this map or finding it useful?

RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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3/27/16 10:15 AM as a reply to neko.
That map has been abandoned by Kenneth as far as I know. It didn't last long and did not survive his own further investigations.

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3/27/16 1:41 PM as a reply to Chris Marti.
Chris Marti:
That map has been abandoned by Kenneth as far as I know. It didn't last long and did not survive his own further investigations.


That being said, there are always outliers.

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3/27/16 3:09 PM as a reply to Noah.
Show me a model and I'll be able to find someone who can describe their practice experience that way, even if the model creator has moved on  emoticon

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3/27/16 3:12 PM as a reply to Chris Marti.
Chris Marti:
Show me a model and I'll be able to find someone who can describe their practice experience that way, even if the model creator has moved on  emoticon

Touche.

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3/27/16 9:49 PM as a reply to Chris Marti.
Chris Marti:
That map has been abandoned by Kenneth as far as I know. It didn't last long and did not survive his own further investigations.

People who abandon their maps annoy me. Especially without explaining why  and what further investigations led them to that point.
Having acknowledged they were wrong (by abandonment) what makes them think that their current decision is less wrong? Wrong maps at least might help you see what went wrong, or contain some good stuff.
It makes it more difficult for those who follow maps, and I do love me my maps.
If I ever stop mapping, slap me.
~D

RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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3/28/16 12:03 AM as a reply to Dream Walker.
@DreamWalker:

I think a big part of the issue is the question of whether or not a change was permanent.  In Kenneth's case, it seems that what was permanent was the knowledge gained about the relativity of all experiences.  It becomes interesting when this type of approach is compared with others, such as those in which people do reach permanent peaks.  I think both of us can agree that technical 4th path is only an optional end point, and the stance that all experiences are relative is only one possible spirituality.  Other "free agents" seem to be discovering stabillized aspects of awareness.  And on it goes...

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3/28/16 4:06 AM as a reply to Chris Marti.
Chris Marti:
Show me a model and I'll be able to find someone who can describe their practice experience that way, even if the model creator has moved on  emoticon

That makes me want to make prank-maps emoticon

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3/28/16 5:26 AM as a reply to neko.
neko:

That makes me want to make prank-maps emoticon


Stage 11: Meditator begins to hallucinate little green men and feels the need to speak about them. In fact, if the meditator does not let everyone around him know he is seeing these men, he is not considered to be o stage 11.

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3/28/16 8:59 AM as a reply to neko.
That makes me want to make prank-maps emoticon

Thought of in a certain way all maps are prank maps. 


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3/28/16 9:18 AM as a reply to Chris Marti.
Chris Marti:
That makes me want to make prank-maps emoticon

Thought of in a certain way all maps are prank maps. 

LOL. I already love this forum.

RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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3/28/16 11:34 AM as a reply to Art.
Art:
Chris Marti:
That makes me want to make prank-maps emoticon

Thought of in a certain way all maps are prank maps. 

LOL. I already love this forum.
I made a map of Mu, but now it is nowhere to be found ...

RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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3/28/16 1:20 PM as a reply to Psi.
New Englanders (in the US) have turned this into a high folk-art with the classic map-navigation advice "You can't get there from here."

RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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3/28/16 3:21 PM as a reply to Chris Marti.
Chris Marti:
That makes me want to make prank-maps emoticon

Thought of in a certain way all maps are prank maps. 



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