Cultivating Brahmaviharas to enter jhana

A Dietrich Ringle, modified 1 Year ago at 7/27/20 12:17 PM
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Cultivating Brahmaviharas to enter jhana

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Careful work has led me to abandon formal insight practice. I am still on the learning curve however and rather than getting fruition, I am substituting jhanas . There's a question of which came first that's bugging me. To whom do I address my complaint?
A Dietrich Ringle, modified 1 Year ago at 7/27/20 12:23 PM
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Jhanas make me sleepy, but seeing that I'm on medication, maybe that's the best outcome for me considering the circumstances. 
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Cosmosus, modified 1 Year ago at 8/18/20 11:46 AM
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A. DIetrich Ringle:
Jhanas make me sleepy, but seeing that I'm on medication, maybe that's the best outcome for me considering the circumstances. 

Sorry if I'm being forward, but if you're sleepy, then you're not in jhana, plain and simple. Unless you are tired and chronically underslept, sleepiness is caused by dullness, which manifests by not being engaged enough with / not interested enough in an object of concentration or just not enough sati to override that sleepiness. 
A Dietrich Ringle, modified 1 Year ago at 8/18/20 11:57 AM
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What about zen? 
A Dietrich Ringle, modified 1 Year ago at 8/18/20 12:05 PM
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I am preparing myself for a total solar eclipse in four years. I need to know what I can take with me, metaphorically speaking.
A Dietrich Ringle, modified 1 Year ago at 8/18/20 5:28 PM
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I don't remember what context I was relying upon when I dilineated that strand of thought. My apologies.

Ok I remember now. I consider jhanas to include those without the progress of itsight, those hard jhanas, and brahma states of mind. So basically under this setting you have either access concentration or jhana. There's not any room for any other kind of state.

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